[Gvsig_english] Problems using geoBD with Oracle layer

Wolfgang Qual Wolfgang.Qual at gmx.net
Mon Jun 4 08:55:01 CEST 2007


Hi Jorge, list,
I "discovered" the following: When the JCRS-extension is deactivated, I *can* load the layer into the gvSIG; geometry is shown. However, this is only true for the layer of the database, which - accordig to the gvSIG-logfile - does not have a SRID-code; loading the other layers will not produce an error message, but no geometry is visible is displayed.
I hope that this information is intersting for you all... ;|

Best regards,
Wolfgang


-------- Original-Nachricht --------
Datum: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 08:55:25 +0200
Von: "Wolfgang Qual" <Wolfgang.Qual at gmx.net>
An: Users and Developers mailing list <gvsig_internacional at runas.cap.gva.es>, gvsig_internacional at runas.cap.gva.es
Betreff: Re: RE: RE: [Gvsig_english] Problems using geoBD with Oracle layer

> Hi Jorge,
> the administrator of the oracle database told me that the spatial index is
> not available for the specified user. Therefore, a view was created.
> Result: the geometry column seems to be detected now by gvSIG (it is visible
> within the geoBD-Dialogue-box).
> However, displaying the layer is still not possible - there seems to be an
> error with the coordinate system. From the logfile:
> 
> INFO AWT-EventQueue-1 com.hardcode.gdbms.engine.data.AutomaticDataSource -
> timer start
> INFO AWT-EventQueue-1 com.hardcode.gdbms.engine.data.AutomaticDataSource -
> timer reset
> INFO AWT-EventQueue-1 com.hardcode.gdbms.engine.data.AutomaticDataSource -
> timer start
> ERROR AWT-EventQueue-1
> es.prodevelop.cit.gvsig.fmap.drivers.jdbc.oracle.OracleSpatialDriver - Oracle Spatial code not found in table: 82032
> ERROR AWT-EventQueue-1
> es.prodevelop.cit.gvsig.fmap.drivers.jdbc.oracle.OracleSpatialDriver - Error with SQL statement. Unknown Oracle code: 82032
> INFO AWT-EventQueue-1 com.hardcode.gdbms.engine.data.AutomaticDataSource -
> timer start
> INFO AWT-EventQueue-1 com.hardcode.gdbms.engine.data.AutomaticDataSource -
> timer reset
> DEBUG Thread-13
> es.prodevelop.cit.gvsig.fmap.drivers.jdbc.oracle.OracleSpatialDriver - SQL para leer ids: select rowid, c.GEOM.SDO_ELEM_INFO from
> RGBUSER1.MY_GEBAEUDE c
> INFO Thread-13
> es.prodevelop.cit.gvsig.fmap.drivers.jdbc.oracle.OracleSpatialDriver - FETCH_SIZE = 15000
> INFO AWT-EventQueue-1 com.hardcode.gdbms.engine.data.AutomaticDataSource -
> timer start
> DEBUG Thread-13
> es.prodevelop.cit.gvsig.fmap.drivers.jdbc.oracle.OracleSpatialDriver - Beginning of result set:
> INFO AWT-EventQueue-1 com.hardcode.gdbms.engine.data.AutomaticDataSource -
> timer reset
> INFO Thread-13
> es.prodevelop.cit.gvsig.fmap.drivers.jdbc.oracle.OracleSpatialDriver - IDs read: 0
> INFO AWT-EventQueue-1 com.hardcode.gdbms.engine.data.AutomaticDataSource -
> datasource closed
> DEBUG AWT-EventQueue-1 com.iver.cit.gvsig.fmap.layers.FLyrDefault -
> setTocStatusImage sun.awt.motif.X11Image at 7e9505 sobre capa RGBUSER1.MY_GEBAEUDE
> DEBUG AWT-EventQueue-1 com.iver.andami.messages.NotificationManager -
> org.gvsig.crs.CrsException: org.gvsig.crs.proj.CrsProjException: +proj=longlat
> +ellps=WGS84 +no_defs 
> org.gvsig.crs.CrsException: org.gvsig.crs.proj.CrsProjException:
> +proj=longlat +ellps=WGS84 +no_defs 
> 	at org.gvsig.crs.COperation.operate(COperation.java:107)
> 	at org.gvsig.crs.COperation.convert(COperation.java:156)
> 	at
> com.iver.cit.gvsig.fmap.layers.FLyrVect.getFullExtent(FLyrVect.java:320)
> 	at
> com.iver.cit.gvsig.fmap.MapContext$LayerEventListener.layerAdded(MapContext.java:802)
> 	at
> com.iver.cit.gvsig.fmap.layers.FLayers.callLayerAdded(FLayers.java:748)
> 	at com.iver.cit.gvsig.fmap.layers.FLayers.addLayer(FLayers.java:189)
> 	at com.iver.cit.gvsig.fmap.layers.FLayers.addLayer(FLayers.java:163)
> 	at
> com.iver.cit.gvsig.AddLayer.loadGenericWizardPanelLayers(AddLayer.java:427)
> 	at com.iver.cit.gvsig.AddLayer.addLayers(AddLayer.java:466)
> 	at com.iver.cit.gvsig.AddLayer.execute(AddLayer.java:193)
> 	at
> com.iver.andami.plugins.ExtensionDecorator.execute(ExtensionDecorator.java:87)
> 	at
> com.iver.andami.ui.mdiFrame.MDIFrame.actionPerformed(MDIFrame.java:626)
> 	at
> javax.swing.AbstractButton.fireActionPerformed(AbstractButton.java:1786)
> 	at
> javax.swing.AbstractButton$ForwardActionEvents.actionPerformed(AbstractButton.java:1839)
> 	at
> javax.swing.DefaultButtonModel.fireActionPerformed(DefaultButtonModel.java:420)
> 	at javax.swing.DefaultButtonModel.setPressed(DefaultButtonModel.java:258)
> 	at
> javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicButtonListener.mouseReleased(BasicButtonListener.java:245)
> 	at
> java.awt.AWTEventMulticaster.mouseReleased(AWTEventMulticaster.java:231)
> 	at
> java.awt.AWTEventMulticaster.mouseReleased(AWTEventMulticaster.java:231)
> 	at java.awt.Component.processMouseEvent(Component.java:5100)
> 	at java.awt.Component.processEvent(Component.java:4897)
> 	at java.awt.Container.processEvent(Container.java:1569)
> 	at java.awt.Component.dispatchEventImpl(Component.java:3615)
> 	at java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Container.java:1627)
> 	at java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Component.java:3477)
> 	at java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.retargetMouseEvent(Container.java:3483)
> 	at java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.processMouseEvent(Container.java:3198)
> 	at java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.dispatchEvent(Container.java:3128)
> 	at java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Container.java:1613)
> 	at java.awt.Window.dispatchEventImpl(Window.java:1606)
> 	at java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Component.java:3477)
> 	at java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEvent(EventQueue.java:480)
> 	at
> com.iver.andami.ui.AndamiEventQueue.dispatchEvent(AndamiEventQueue.java:58)
> 	at
> java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpOneEventForHierarchy(EventDispatchThread.java:201)
> 	at
> java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForHierarchy(EventDispatchThread.java:151)
> 	at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(EventDispatchThread.java:145)
> 	at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(EventDispatchThread.java:137)
> 	at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(EventDispatchThread.java:100)
> Caused by: org.gvsig.crs.proj.CrsProjException: +proj=longlat +ellps=WGS84
> +no_defs 
> 	at org.gvsig.crs.proj.JNIBaseCrs.getPtr(JNIBaseCrs.java:102)
> 	at org.gvsig.crs.proj.JNIBaseCrs.operate(JNIBaseCrs.java:131)
> 	at org.gvsig.crs.COperation.operate(COperation.java:101)
> 	... 37 more
> WARN AWT-EventQueue-1 com.iver.andami.PluginServices - Plugin
> com.iver.core -- Konnte Übersetzung nicht finden für: Informationskonsole
> WARN AWT-EventQueue-1 com.iver.andami.PluginServices - Plugin
> com.iver.core -- Konnte Übersetzung nicht finden für: Informationskonsole
> WARN AWT-EventQueue-1 com.iver.andami.PluginServices - Plugin
> com.iver.core -- Konnte Übersetzung nicht finden für: Aktiviert das fenster
> INFO Thread-13
> es.prodevelop.cit.gvsig.fmap.drivers.jdbc.oracle.OracleSpatialDriver - IDs read: 5.000
> INFO Thread-13
> es.prodevelop.cit.gvsig.fmap.drivers.jdbc.oracle.OracleSpatialDriver - IDs read: 10.000
> DEBUG AWT-EventQueue-1 com.iver.core.mdiManager.NewSkin - Activando
> Informationskonsole
> DEBUG AWT-EventQueue-1 com.iver.andami.ui.mdiFrame.MDIFrame - Memoria
> total: 45468584
> DEBUG AWT-EventQueue-1 com.iver.andami.messages.NotificationManager -
> org.gvsig.crs.CrsException: org.gvsig.crs.proj.CrsProjException: +proj=longlat
> +ellps=WGS84 +no_defs 
> org.gvsig.crs.CrsException: org.gvsig.crs.proj.CrsProjException:
> +proj=longlat +ellps=WGS84 +no_defs 
> 	at org.gvsig.crs.COperation.operate(COperation.java:107)
> 
> [...]
> 
> Caused by: org.gvsig.crs.proj.CrsProjException: +proj=longlat +ellps=WGS84
> +no_defs 
> 	at org.gvsig.crs.proj.JNIBaseCrs.getPtr(JNIBaseCrs.java:102)
> 	at org.gvsig.crs.proj.JNIBaseCrs.operate(JNIBaseCrs.java:131)
> 	at org.gvsig.crs.COperation.operate(COperation.java:101)
> 	... 37 more
> DEBUG AWT-EventQueue-1 com.iver.andami.messages.NotificationManager -
> Anwendungsfehler
> java.lang.NullPointerException
> 
> This is kind of strange, as I used EPSG-code for DHDN Germany, Zone 4
> (Gauss-Krüger, Zone 4) for the projection of the view - and the projection
> information of the oracle layer should contain the same information (SRID
> 82032).
> At least, one step further, I guess. 
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> Wolfgang
> 
> ------8<-----------------------------
> 
> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
> Datum: Wed, 30 May 2007 16:42:23 +0200
> Von: "Jorge Sanz" <jsanz at prodevelop.es>
> An: gvsig_internacional at runas.cap.gva.es
> Betreff: RE: RE: [Gvsig_english] Problems using geoBD with Oracle layer
> 
> > To know the spatial indexes of a table you can execute that SQL:
> >  
> > SELECT INDEX_NAME,STATUS
> > >FROM USER_INDEXES 
> > WHERE TABLE_NAME='MYTABLE' AND ITYP_NAME='SPATIAL_INDEX'
> > ORDER BY INDEX_NAME
> >  
> > By the way, there is a known bug related with spatial indexes reported
> > some days ago. The next release of the extension will have it resolved.
> Sorry
> > for the inconvenience...
> >  
> > And about ogr2ogr... the log is showing that the SRID (the Oracle
> specific
> > code with the coordinate system and datum information) is null. I've
> > experienced some problems with the new JCRS extension and the Oracle
> driver, and
> > it seems that is related with that situation (a layer/table without
> > reference information). We will work on it.
> >  
> > Thank you for your comments.
> >  
> > Regards
> > 
> > Jorge Gaspar Sanz Salinas 
> > Ingeniero en Geodesia y Cartografía 
> > Prodevelop S.L. - Valencia - España 
> > Tlf.:  96.351.06.12 - Fax:   96.351.09.68 
> > jsanz[en]prodevelop[punto]es 
> > http://www.prodevelop.es <http://www.prodevelop.es/>  
> > 
> > ________________________________
> > 
> > De: Wolfgang Qual [mailto:Wolfgang.Qual at gmx.net]
> > Enviado el: mié 30/05/2007 14:31
> > Para: Users and Developers mailing list;
> > gvsig_internacional at runas.cap.gva.es
> > CC: Jorge Sanz
> > Asunto: Re: RE: [Gvsig_english] Problems using geoBD with Oracle layer
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hello Jorge,
> > thanks for your comment. I browsed through the gvSIG-logfile, and found
> > that the layers seem to have this information, like
> > 
> > "DEBUG AWT-EventQueue-1
> > es.prodevelop.cit.gvsig.fmap.drivers.jdbc.oracle.OracleSpatialDriver -
> ======================================================
> > DEBUG AWT-EventQueue-1
> > es.prodevelop.cit.gvsig.fmap.drivers.jdbc.oracle.OracleSpatialDriver -
> OWNER: VAGRUND
> > DEBUG AWT-EventQueue-1
> > es.prodevelop.cit.gvsig.fmap.drivers.jdbc.oracle.OracleSpatialDriver -
> TABLE_NAME: DIST_SYMBOL
> > DEBUG AWT-EventQueue-1
> > es.prodevelop.cit.gvsig.fmap.drivers.jdbc.oracle.OracleSpatialDriver -
> COLUMN_NAME: GEOM
> > DEBUG AWT-EventQueue-1
> > es.prodevelop.cit.gvsig.fmap.drivers.jdbc.oracle.OracleSpatialDriver -
> SRID: 82032
> > DEBUG AWT-EventQueue-1
> > es.prodevelop.cit.gvsig.fmap.drivers.jdbc.oracle.OracleSpatialDriver -
> DIMINFO: DIMENSIONS: 3
> > DIMENSION 0: , NAME: X, MIN: 4356000, MAX: 4612000, TOL: 0.0005
> > DIMENSION 1: , NAME: Y, MIN: 5240000, MAX: 5496000, TOL: 0.0005
> > DIMENSION 2: , NAME: Z, MIN: -10000, MAX: 10000, TOL: 0.0005
> > DEBUG AWT-EventQueue-1
> > es.prodevelop.cit.gvsig.fmap.drivers.jdbc.oracle.OracleSpatialDriver - "
> > 
> > Ok. What I do not know yet is whether this layer has a spatial index or
> > not. I'll try to find out this.
> > 
> > 
> > Additionally, I added a table to this database on my own using ogr2ogr.
> > The geometry column of this layer is detected by gvSIG. However this
> layer
> > cannot be added to my view - 
> > 
> > The layer in the log:
> > DEBUG AWT-EventQueue-1
> > es.prodevelop.cit.gvsig.fmap.drivers.jdbc.oracle.OracleSpatialDriver -
> OWNER: RGBUSER1
> > DEBUG AWT-EventQueue-1
> > es.prodevelop.cit.gvsig.fmap.drivers.jdbc.oracle.OracleSpatialDriver -
> TABLE_NAME: BESP_KAMIN
> > DEBUG AWT-EventQueue-1
> > es.prodevelop.cit.gvsig.fmap.drivers.jdbc.oracle.OracleSpatialDriver -
> COLUMN_NAME: ORA_GEOMETRY
> > DEBUG AWT-EventQueue-1
> > es.prodevelop.cit.gvsig.fmap.drivers.jdbc.oracle.OracleSpatialDriver -
> SRID: null
> > DEBUG AWT-EventQueue-1
> > es.prodevelop.cit.gvsig.fmap.drivers.jdbc.oracle.OracleSpatialDriver -
> DIMINFO: DIMENSIONS: 3
> > DIMENSION 0: , NAME: X, MIN: 4452546.0175, MAX: 4479482.3834, TOL: 0.001
> > DIMENSION 1: , NAME: Y, MIN: 5324955.4072, MAX: 5345695.8636, TOL: 0.001
> > DIMENSION 2: , NAME: Z, MIN: -100000, MAX: 100000, TOL: 0.002
> > DEBUG AWT-EventQueue-1
> > es.prodevelop.cit.gvsig.fmap.drivers.jdbc.oracle.OracleSpatialDriver -
> ======================================================
> > 
> > and the error message:
> > DEBUG AWT-EventQueue-1 com.iver.andami.messages.NotificationManager -
> > org.gvsig.crs.CrsException: org.gvsig.crs.proj.CrsProjException:
> +proj=tmerc
> > +lat_0=0 +lon_0=11.99999999999999 +k=1.000000 +x_0=4500000 +y_0=0
> > +ellps=bessel +units=m +no_defs
> > org.gvsig.crs.CrsException: org.gvsig.crs.proj.CrsProjException:
> > +proj=tmerc +lat_0=0 +lon_0=11.99999999999999 +k=1.000000 +x_0=4500000
> +y_0=0
> > +ellps=bessel +units=m +no_defs
> >         at org.gvsig.crs.COperation.operate(COperation.java:107)
> >         at org.gvsig.crs.COperation.convert(COperation.java:156)
> >         at
> > com.iver.cit.gvsig.fmap.layers.FLyrVect.getFullExtent(FLyrVect.java:321)
> >         at
> >
> com.iver.cit.gvsig.fmap.MapContext$LayerEventListener.layerAdded(MapContext.java:802)
> >         at
> > com.iver.cit.gvsig.fmap.layers.FLayers.callLayerAdded(FLayers.java:748)
> >         at
> > com.iver.cit.gvsig.fmap.layers.FLayers.addLayer(FLayers.java:189)
> >         at
> > com.iver.cit.gvsig.fmap.layers.FLayers.addLayer(FLayers.java:163)
> >         at
> >
> com.iver.cit.gvsig.AddLayer.loadGenericWizardPanelLayers(AddLayer.java:427)
> >         at com.iver.cit.gvsig.AddLayer.addLayers(AddLayer.java:466)
> >         at com.iver.cit.gvsig.AddLayer.execute(AddLayer.java:193)
> >         at
> >
> com.iver.andami.plugins.ExtensionDecorator.execute(ExtensionDecorator.java:87)
> >         at
> > com.iver.andami.ui.mdiFrame.MDIFrame.actionPerformed(MDIFrame.java:626)
> >         at
> > javax.swing.AbstractButton.fireActionPerformed(AbstractButton.java:1786)
> >         at
> >
> javax.swing.AbstractButton$ForwardActionEvents.actionPerformed(AbstractButton.java:1839)
> >         at
> >
> javax.swing.DefaultButtonModel.fireActionPerformed(DefaultButtonModel.java:420)
> >         at
> > javax.swing.DefaultButtonModel.setPressed(DefaultButtonModel.java:258)
> >         at
> >
> javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicButtonListener.mouseReleased(BasicButtonListener.java:245)
> >         at
> > java.awt.AWTEventMulticaster.mouseReleased(AWTEventMulticaster.java:231)
> >         at
> > java.awt.AWTEventMulticaster.mouseReleased(AWTEventMulticaster.java:231)
> >         at java.awt.Component.processMouseEvent(Component.java:5100)
> >         at java.awt.Component.processEvent(Component.java:4897)
> >         at java.awt.Container.processEvent(Container.java:1569)
> >         at java.awt.Component.dispatchEventImpl(Component.java:3615)
> >         at java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Container.java:1627)
> >         at java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Component.java:3477)
> >         at
> > java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.retargetMouseEvent(Container.java:3483)
> >         at
> > java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.processMouseEvent(Container.java:3198)
> >         at
> > java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.dispatchEvent(Container.java:3128)
> >         at java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Container.java:1613)
> >         at java.awt.Window.dispatchEventImpl(Window.java:1606)
> >         at java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Component.java:3477)
> >         at java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEvent(EventQueue.java:480)
> >         at
> >
> com.iver.andami.ui.AndamiEventQueue.dispatchEvent(AndamiEventQueue.java:58)
> >         at
> >
> java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpOneEventForHierarchy(EventDispatchThread.java:201)
> >         at
> >
> java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForHierarchy(EventDispatchThread.java:151)
> >         at
> > java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(EventDispatchThread.java:145)
> >         at
> > java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(EventDispatchThread.java:137)
> >         at
> java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(EventDispatchThread.java:100)
> > Caused by: org.gvsig.crs.proj.CrsProjException: +proj=tmerc +lat_0=0
> > +lon_0=11.99999999999999 +k=1.000000 +x_0=4500000 +y_0=0 +ellps=bessel
> +units=m
> > +no_defs
> >         at org.gvsig.crs.proj.JNIBaseCrs.getPtr(JNIBaseCrs.java:102)
> >         at org.gvsig.crs.proj.JNIBaseCrs.operate(JNIBaseCrs.java:131)
> >         at org.gvsig.crs.COperation.operate(COperation.java:101)
> >         ... 37 more
> > DEBUG AWT-EventQueue-1 com.iver.andami.messages.NotificationManager -
> > Anwendungsfehler
> > java.lang.NullPointerException
> > 
> > 
> > I just don't really get it. Ideas?
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > Wolfgang
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -------- Original-Nachricht --------
> > Datum: Wed, 30 May 2007 13:04:53 +0200
> > Von: "Jorge Sanz" <jsanz at prodevelop.es>
> > An: "Users and Developers mailing list"
> > <gvsig_internacional at runas.cap.gva.es>
> > Betreff: RE: [Gvsig_english] Problems using geoBD with Oracle layer
> > 
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > gvSIG needs that Oracle Spatial Geometry columns have an spatial
> index.
> > > That is to say, you must create a spatial index on your GEOM column to
> > be
> > > able to make spatial queries (gvSIG makes spatial queries to retrieve
> > data
> > > from the database). For example:
> > > 
> > > CREATE INDEX MYTABLE_SPIDX ON MYTABLE (MYGEOMCOL)
> > > INDEXTYPE IS MDSYS.SPATIAL_INDEX
> > > PARAMETERS ('');
> > > 
> > > In addition, before you create the Index, you must insert metadata
> about
> > > your table into the MDSYS.USER_SDO_GEOM_METADATA view. For example:
> > > 
> > > INSERT INTO mdsys.USER_SDO_GEOM_METADATA
> > > (TABLE_NAME,COLUMN_NAME,DIMINFO,SRID)
> > > VALUES ('MYTABLE','MYGEOMCOL',
> > > mdsys.SDO_DIM_ARRAY(mdsys.SDO_DIM_ELEMENT('X', -180, 180, 0.001),
> > > mdsys.SDO_DIM_ELEMENT('Y', -90, 90, 0.001)), 8307);
> > > 
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Jorge Gaspar Sanz Salinas
> > > Ingeniero en Geodesia y Cartografía
> > > Prodevelop S.L. - Valencia - España
> > > Tlf.:  96.351.06.12 - Fax:   96.351.09.68
> > > jsanz[en]prodevelop[punto]es
> > > http://www.prodevelop.es <http://www.prodevelop.es/> 
> > <http://www.prodevelop.es/> 
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > >
> > > De: gvsig_internacional-bounces at runas.cap.gva.es en nombre de Wolfgang
> > > Qual
> > > Enviado el: mié 30/05/2007 11:26
> > > Para: gvsig_internacional at runas.cap.gva.es
> > > Asunto: [Gvsig_english] Problems using geoBD with Oracle layer
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi list,
> > > I just had the possibility to test geoBD-extension with an Oracle
> > Spatial
> > > Connection.
> > > I could connect to the Oracle Database, all layers appear in the
> > > GeoBD-dialogue box.
> > > However, when trying to activate one of them, the error message
> appears:
> > > "Error while getting valid geometry fields: no spatial indexes found
> on
> > > geometry field of table [tablename]".
> > > This is strange, as I see the column "GEOM" in the list of columns of
> > this
> > > table. Is there a reason, why this column is not recognised? Geom is
> of
> > > type MDSYS.SDO_GEOMETRY.
> > >
> > > I would be grateful for any comments!
> > > Best,
> > > Wolfgang
> > >
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