Hi Nicklas, <br><br>Great to hear this!! You are the first which have working 3D extension in linux and fglrx driver!! Feel free to send a patch and become a contributor to gvSIG 3D. Here you have the instructions[1]. If you don&#39;t have enough time I will do the job for the next release (RC1) and you will be a contributor anyway :) .<br>
<br>About PostGIS in the gvSIG code sprint[2] many bugs were fixes. Maybe you can use a translator, the web is in spanish. Anyway other people in the community can speak about postGis better than me... Hope they read this thread.  <br>
<br>We are a bit curious about performance with fglrx drivers. How it goes? Letter &#39;s&#39; toggles the statistics in a 3D view. <br><br>Cheers, and good work!<br><br>[1]<a href="https://gvsig.org/web/projects/gvsig-desktop/docs/devel/gvsig-devel-guide/2.0.0/anexos/contribuciones-y-parches-al-codigo-de-gvsig/contributions-and-patches-to-the-gvsig-code/view?set_language=en">https://gvsig.org/web/projects/gvsig-desktop/docs/devel/gvsig-devel-guide/2.0.0/anexos/contribuciones-y-parches-al-codigo-de-gvsig/contributions-and-patches-to-the-gvsig-code/view?set_language=en</a><br>
[2]<a href="http://www.doowikis.com/m/Jy3H1rZ7AP">http://www.doowikis.com/m/Jy3H1rZ7AP</a><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/1/10 Nicklas Avén <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:nicklas.aven@jordogskog.no">nicklas.aven@jordogskog.no</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Hallo again<br>
<br>
I had it working. First I tried:<br>
<br>
pathtoGL=$(find /usr/lib/fglrx -iname libGL.so.1);<br>
<br>
then it found libGL.so.1 but couldn&#39;t load it.<br>
<br>
But when I changed to<br>
<br>
pathtoGL=$(find /usr/lib32/fglrx -iname libGL.so.1);<br>
<br>
it works.<br>
<br>
Now it is just that issue that I don&#39;t get the Z-values from PostGIS.<br>
<br>
Is that patch available? Is it difficult to compile. As I understood it<br>
the bug is not in the 3D-extension but in the desktop application?<br>
<br>
Then I found another issue:<br>
At least in the 3D-extension, I haven&#39;t tried the 2D view, If I load a<br>
PostGIS table that table gets locked. Even after I have deleted it from<br>
the view I can&#39;t drop it in PostGIS.<br>
<br>
There must be some sort of locking left also efter removing the table<br>
from gvSIG.<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
<font color="#888888"><br>
Nicklas<br>
</font><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
<br>
<br>
On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 14:09 +0100, Jordi Torres wrote:<br>
&gt; Hi Nicklas,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I think you will have to convert your polyhedralsurfaces to polygons,<br>
&gt; but you can test anyway...<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I am waiting eagerly for this screenshots!!<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Cheers.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; 2011/1/10 Nicklas Avén &lt;<a href="mailto:nicklas.aven@jordogskog.no">nicklas.aven@jordogskog.no</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;         Great!<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;         Thanks both of you.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;         I will get back with some nice screenshots of ST_3DShortesline<br>
&gt;         on<br>
&gt;         polyhedralsurfaces when I get some extra time and things are<br>
&gt;         running.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;         BTW, will the 3D extension understand the geometry type<br>
&gt;         polyhedralsurface or do I have to use ST_Dump to get a bunch<br>
&gt;         of 3D<br>
&gt;         polygons instead?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;         Thanks again<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;         Nicklas<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;         On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 13:37 +0100, Jordi Torres wrote:<br>
&gt;         &gt; Hi Nicklas,<br>
&gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; With no doubt the best cards to use with linux are NVIDIA<br>
&gt;         one&#39;s. Their<br>
&gt;         &gt; private drivers runs like a charm in linux machines. And<br>
&gt;         they are a<br>
&gt;         &gt; couple of steps advanced with respect to ATI, at least in<br>
&gt;         linux...<br>
&gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; The problem you are experiencing is that gvSIG 3D can&#39;t find<br>
&gt;         your<br>
&gt;         &gt; libGL.so.1 implementation (usually in /usr/lib/ ). It has<br>
&gt;         been fixed<br>
&gt;         &gt; for Mesa drivers, but not for ATI private drivers. You can<br>
&gt;         take a look<br>
&gt;         &gt; in the script gvSIG.sh to see what we do with mesa drivers<br>
&gt;         and try to<br>
&gt;         &gt; do something similar. Or you can, of course, wait for RC1<br>
&gt;         version.<br>
&gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; As ben recommended, take a look to phoronix, and compare<br>
&gt;         chipsets and<br>
&gt;         &gt; drivers.... :)<br>
&gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; Cheers.<br>
&gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; 2011/1/10 Nicklas Avén &lt;<a href="mailto:nicklas.aven@jordogskog.no">nicklas.aven@jordogskog.no</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         Here it comes :-)<br>
&gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 13:27 +0100, Jordi Torres<br>
&gt;         wrote:<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt; Hi Nicklas,<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt; Can you send the<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt; file<br>
&gt;          /home/nicklas/gvSIG_1.10/bin/hs_err_pid6059.log ? This<br>
&gt;         &gt;         file<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt; contains the log for the native crash.<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt; As Benjamin said, ATI 3D support in linux have<br>
&gt;         been<br>
&gt;         &gt;         problematic for a<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt; long time.  Anyway we know we have a problem with<br>
&gt;         ati cards<br>
&gt;         &gt;         in linux<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt; and private drivers. We will do our best to fix it<br>
&gt;         for RC1<br>
&gt;         &gt;         version.<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt; Cheers.<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt; 2011/1/10 Nicklas Avén<br>
&gt;         &lt;<a href="mailto:nicklas.aven@jordogskog.no">nicklas.aven@jordogskog.no</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         I have had some problems seeing the<br>
&gt;         beginning of the<br>
&gt;         &gt;         startup<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         of gcSIG<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         since it was too long to be scrollable in<br>
&gt;         the<br>
&gt;         &gt;         terminal. But<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         now I<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         outputted it to file and I am not sure it<br>
&gt;         is about<br>
&gt;         &gt;         the video<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         card.<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         I attach both glxint and the output of the<br>
&gt;         gvSIG<br>
&gt;         &gt;         start that<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         ends with a<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         crash<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         When I installed I tried to just follow<br>
&gt;         the<br>
&gt;         &gt;         instructions which<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         resulted<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         in two folders in my home directory:<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         gvSIG and gvSIG_1.10<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         to start I have to manually kick on script<br>
&gt;         gvSIG-sh<br>
&gt;         &gt;         in<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         bin-directory<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         under gvSIG_1.10<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         Thanks<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         Nicklas<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         here comes glxinfo output as attachment.<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         My system is Ubuntu 10.4 64 bit<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         I have had some problems getting the error<br>
&gt;         text. I<br>
&gt;         &gt;         cannot find<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         it in ant<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         log and the text is so long so the start<br>
&gt;         with the<br>
&gt;         &gt;         actual<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 12:58 +0100, Jordi<br>
&gt;         Torres<br>
&gt;         &gt;         wrote:<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt; Hi Nicklas,<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt; About PostGis tables giving 2D<br>
&gt;         geometries is a bug<br>
&gt;         &gt;         that have<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         been<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt; tracked and a fixed[1]. The fix (a patch<br>
&gt;         submitted<br>
&gt;         &gt;         by Jose<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         Carlos<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt; Martínez from UPV) are not in the svn<br>
&gt;         yet, is<br>
&gt;         &gt;         waiting to be<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         assigned<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt; and merged. We hope it will be merged<br>
&gt;         for gvSIG<br>
&gt;         &gt;         1.11<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         release.<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt; With respect to your ATI card: are you<br>
&gt;         using<br>
&gt;         &gt;         driver Mesa or<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         fglrx? Can<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt; you send to the list a glxinfo output<br>
&gt;         please?<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt; Thanks for test the 3D extension!<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt; Cheers.<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt; 2011/1/10 Nicklas Avén<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &lt;<a href="mailto:nicklas.aven@jordogskog.no">nicklas.aven@jordogskog.no</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         Hallo<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         Actually I started trying some<br>
&gt;         the last<br>
&gt;         &gt;         week without<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         knowing<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         it was that<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         new :-)<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         What I have tried is against<br>
&gt;         PostGIS in an<br>
&gt;         &gt;         attempt<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         to<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         visualize the new<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         polyhedral surface and 3D<br>
&gt;         distance<br>
&gt;         &gt;         functions in the<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         trunk<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         comming in<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         PostGIS 2.0.<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         In Ubuntu gvSIG crashes when I<br>
&gt;         have the<br>
&gt;         &gt;         extension<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         installed. I<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         translated some spanish post<br>
&gt;         with google<br>
&gt;         &gt;         on the<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         subject and I<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         guess it<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         is a problem with my ATI-card.<br>
&gt;         The<br>
&gt;         &gt;         symptoms looked<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         very<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         similar. Is<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         there a solution for that?<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         In windows I had some other<br>
&gt;         trouble. When<br>
&gt;         &gt;         I had<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         defined and<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         opened a 3D<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         view I could open a PostGIS<br>
&gt;         table, but I<br>
&gt;         &gt;         didn&#39;t get<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         the third<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         dimmension. Properties said that<br>
&gt;         it was a<br>
&gt;         &gt;         2d<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         polygon. I guess<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         that can<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         be a JDBC-problem. But I don&#39;t<br>
&gt;         know enough<br>
&gt;         &gt;         about<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         that to say<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         anything.<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         Another problem on windows was<br>
&gt;         that when I<br>
&gt;         &gt;         had<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         loaded my<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         postgis table<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         the cpu went wild. some<br>
&gt;         java-process took<br>
&gt;         &gt;         all<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         recourses.<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         All this was maybe a week ago.<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         But I saw the idea, and it<br>
&gt;         looked<br>
&gt;         &gt;         great :-)<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         Regards<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         Nicklas Avén<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 12:02<br>
&gt;         +0100, Jordi<br>
&gt;         &gt;         Torres<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         wrote:<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt; Hi gvSIG users!<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt; As many of you already know,<br>
&gt;         the gvSIG<br>
&gt;         &gt;         3D team is<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         working<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         hard to get<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt; a final version of the 3D<br>
&gt;         extension.<br>
&gt;         &gt;         During<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         christmas<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         hollydays a beta<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt; version have been released.<br>
&gt;          After this<br>
&gt;         &gt;         version we<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         will<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         create<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt; consecutives RC (release<br>
&gt;         candidates)<br>
&gt;         &gt;         fixing the<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         bugs<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         detected to<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt; arrive to the final release.<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt; We are specially interested in<br>
&gt;         the<br>
&gt;         &gt;         community<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         testing and<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         feedback,<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt; because the proper functioning<br>
&gt;         of this<br>
&gt;         &gt;         extension<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         depends on<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         the<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt; hardware and drivers used. Our<br>
&gt;         target is<br>
&gt;         &gt;         to detect<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         the<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         maximum number<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt; of bugs, and which<br>
&gt;         configurations are<br>
&gt;         &gt;         working<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         well/bad to<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         fix these<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt; problems in the RC1 version.<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt; We recommend to take a look to<br>
&gt;         the<br>
&gt;         &gt;         minimum<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         requirements[1]<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         before to<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt; install the 3D extension[2],<br>
&gt;         and do it<br>
&gt;         &gt;         in a<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         separate gvSIG<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         1.10 final<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt; installation. All your<br>
&gt;         comments,<br>
&gt;         &gt;         suggestions and<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         bug reports<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         are<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt; wellcome. You can write to<br>
&gt;         gvSIG<br>
&gt;         &gt;         distribution<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         lists or to<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         the gvSIG 3D<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt; blog[3], where you can find<br>
&gt;         &gt;         videotutorials and use<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         examples.<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt; Thank you very much in<br>
&gt;         advance!<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         [1]<a href="https://gvsig.org/web/projects/gvsig-desktop/official/gvsig-1.10/extensiones-gvsig-1.10/extension-3d/system-requirements/view?set_language=en" target="_blank">https://gvsig.org/web/projects/gvsig-desktop/official/gvsig-1.10/extensiones-gvsig-1.10/extension-3d/system-requirements/view?set_language=en</a><br>

&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         [2]<a href="https://gvsig.org/web/projects/gvsig-desktop/official/gvsig-1.10/extensiones-gvsig-1.10/extension-3d/downloads" target="_blank">https://gvsig.org/web/projects/gvsig-desktop/official/gvsig-1.10/extensiones-gvsig-1.10/extension-3d/downloads</a><br>

&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt; [3]<a href="http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com" target="_blank">http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com</a><br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt; -- Jordi Torres Fabra --<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt; gvSIG 3D blog<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt; <a href="http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com" target="_blank">http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com</a><br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt; Instituto de Automática e<br>
&gt;         Informática<br>
&gt;         &gt;         Industrial<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt; <a href="http://www.ai2.upv.es" target="_blank">http://www.ai2.upv.es</a><br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         _______________________________________________<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt; Gvsig_internacional mailing<br>
&gt;         list<br>
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&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
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&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         _______________________________________________<br>
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&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
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&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
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&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt; --<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt; Jordi Torres Fabra<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt; gvSIG 3D blog<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt; <a href="http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com" target="_blank">http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com</a><br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt; Instituto de Automática e Informática<br>
&gt;         Industrial<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt; <a href="http://www.ai2.upv.es" target="_blank">http://www.ai2.upv.es</a><br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         _______________________________________________<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt; Gvsig_internacional mailing list<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt; <a href="mailto:Gvsig_internacional@listserv.gva.es">Gvsig_internacional@listserv.gva.es</a><br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
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&gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         _______________________________________________<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         Gvsig_internacional mailing list<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;         <a href="mailto:Gvsig_internacional@listserv.gva.es">Gvsig_internacional@listserv.gva.es</a><br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;<br>
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&gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt; --<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt; Jordi Torres Fabra<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt; gvSIG 3D blog<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt; <a href="http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com" target="_blank">http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com</a><br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt; Instituto de Automática e Informática Industrial<br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt; <a href="http://www.ai2.upv.es" target="_blank">http://www.ai2.upv.es</a><br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt; _______________________________________________<br>
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&gt;         &gt;         &gt; <a href="mailto:Gvsig_internacional@listserv.gva.es">Gvsig_internacional@listserv.gva.es</a><br>
&gt;         &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         <a href="http://listserv.gva.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gvsig_internacional" target="_blank">http://listserv.gva.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gvsig_internacional</a><br>
&gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;         _______________________________________________<br>
&gt;         &gt;         Gvsig_internacional mailing list<br>
&gt;         &gt;         <a href="mailto:Gvsig_internacional@listserv.gva.es">Gvsig_internacional@listserv.gva.es</a><br>
&gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         <a href="http://listserv.gva.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gvsig_internacional" target="_blank">http://listserv.gva.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gvsig_internacional</a><br>
&gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; --<br>
&gt;         &gt; Jordi Torres Fabra<br>
&gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         &gt; gvSIG 3D blog<br>
&gt;         &gt; <a href="http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com" target="_blank">http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com</a><br>
&gt;         &gt; Instituto de Automática e Informática Industrial<br>
&gt;         &gt; <a href="http://www.ai2.upv.es" target="_blank">http://www.ai2.upv.es</a><br>
&gt;         &gt; _______________________________________________<br>
&gt;         &gt; Gvsig_internacional mailing list<br>
&gt;         &gt; <a href="mailto:Gvsig_internacional@listserv.gva.es">Gvsig_internacional@listserv.gva.es</a><br>
&gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;         <a href="http://listserv.gva.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gvsig_internacional" target="_blank">http://listserv.gva.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gvsig_internacional</a><br>
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&gt;         _______________________________________________<br>
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&gt;         <a href="mailto:Gvsig_internacional@listserv.gva.es">Gvsig_internacional@listserv.gva.es</a><br>
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&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; --<br>
&gt; Jordi Torres Fabra<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; gvSIG 3D blog<br>
&gt; <a href="http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com" target="_blank">http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com</a><br>
&gt; Instituto de Automática e Informática Industrial<br>
&gt; <a href="http://www.ai2.upv.es" target="_blank">http://www.ai2.upv.es</a><br>
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</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Jordi Torres Fabra<br><br>gvSIG 3D blog<br><a href="http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com">http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com</a><br>Instituto de Automática e Informática Industrial <br>
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