Hi Ben, <br><br>He He, We have scheduled it for the 1st of February, so, don't worry! <br><br>Thank you!<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/1/13 Benjamin Ducke <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:benjamin.ducke@oxfordarch.co.uk">benjamin.ducke@oxfordarch.co.uk</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Jordi,<br>
<br>
Please wait at least until the end of this month with RC1 if you<br>
can. The beginning of the year is usually a very busy period, and<br>
people might simply not have had the time to test and report<br>
back yet (including me).<br>
<br>
Ben<br>
<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
----- Original Message -----<br>
> HI NIcklas,<br>
><br>
> Did you finally saw a 3D view? Can you tell us how the performance was<br>
> with your fglrx drivers?<br>
><br>
> We are a bit desencouraged about the call for testing, because nobody<br>
> said directly that the test was succesful.<br>
> If any other on the list have tested 3D with or without success,<br>
> please answer to this thread, is the way to fix the problems or to see<br>
> some feedback from the community. If no body reports major problems we<br>
> will go for RC1 next weeks.<br>
><br>
> Your screenshots are wellcome!<br>
><br>
> Cheers!<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> 2011/1/10 Jordi Torres < <a href="mailto:jtorresfabra@gmail.com">jtorresfabra@gmail.com</a> ><br>
><br>
><br>
> Hi Nicklas,<br>
><br>
> Great to hear this!! You are the first which have working 3D extension<br>
> in linux and fglrx driver!! Feel free to send a patch and become a<br>
> contributor to gvSIG 3D. Here you have the instructions[1]. If you<br>
> don't have enough time I will do the job for the next release (RC1)<br>
> and you will be a contributor anyway :) .<br>
><br>
> About PostGIS in the gvSIG code sprint[2] many bugs were fixes. Maybe<br>
> you can use a translator, the web is in spanish. Anyway other people<br>
> in the community can speak about postGis better than me... Hope they<br>
> read this thread.<br>
><br>
> We are a bit curious about performance with fglrx drivers. How it<br>
> goes? Letter 's' toggles the statistics in a 3D view.<br>
><br>
> Cheers, and good work!<br>
><br>
> [1]<br>
> <a href="https://gvsig.org/web/projects/gvsig-desktop/docs/devel/gvsig-devel-guide/2.0.0/anexos/contribuciones-y-parches-al-codigo-de-gvsig/contributions-and-patches-to-the-gvsig-code/view?set_language=en" target="_blank">https://gvsig.org/web/projects/gvsig-desktop/docs/devel/gvsig-devel-guide/2.0.0/anexos/contribuciones-y-parches-al-codigo-de-gvsig/contributions-and-patches-to-the-gvsig-code/view?set_language=en</a><br>
> [2] <a href="http://www.doowikis.com/m/Jy3H1rZ7AP" target="_blank">http://www.doowikis.com/m/Jy3H1rZ7AP</a><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> 2011/1/10 Nicklas Avén < <a href="mailto:nicklas.aven@jordogskog.no">nicklas.aven@jordogskog.no</a> ><br>
><br>
><br>
> Hallo again<br>
><br>
> I had it working. First I tried:<br>
><br>
> pathtoGL=$(find /usr/lib/fglrx -iname libGL.so.1);<br>
><br>
> then it found libGL.so.1 but couldn't load it.<br>
><br>
> But when I changed to<br>
><br>
> pathtoGL=$(find /usr/lib32/fglrx -iname libGL.so.1);<br>
><br>
> it works.<br>
><br>
> Now it is just that issue that I don't get the Z-values from PostGIS.<br>
><br>
> Is that patch available? Is it difficult to compile. As I understood<br>
> it the bug is not in the 3D-extension but in the desktop application?<br>
><br>
> Then I found another issue:<br>
> At least in the 3D-extension, I haven't tried the 2D view, If I load a<br>
> PostGIS table that table gets locked. Even after I have deleted it<br>
> from the view I can't drop it in PostGIS.<br>
><br>
> There must be some sort of locking left also efter removing the table<br>
> from gvSIG.<br>
><br>
> Regards<br>
><br>
> Nicklas<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 14:09 +0100, Jordi Torres wrote:<br>
> > Hi Nicklas,<br>
> ><br>
> > I think you will have to convert your polyhedralsurfaces to<br>
> > polygons, but you can test anyway...<br>
> ><br>
> > I am waiting eagerly for this screenshots!!<br>
> ><br>
> > Cheers.<br>
> ><br>
> > 2011/1/10 Nicklas Avén < <a href="mailto:nicklas.aven@jordogskog.no">nicklas.aven@jordogskog.no</a> ><br>
> > Great!<br>
> ><br>
> > Thanks both of you.<br>
> ><br>
> > I will get back with some nice screenshots of ST_3DShortesline<br>
> > on polyhedralsurfaces when I get some extra time and things are<br>
> > running.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > BTW, will the 3D extension understand the geometry type<br>
> > polyhedralsurface or do I have to use ST_Dump to get a bunch<br>
> > of 3D<br>
> > polygons instead?<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > Thanks again<br>
> ><br>
> > Nicklas<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 13:37 +0100, Jordi Torres wrote:<br>
> > > Hi Nicklas,<br>
> > ><br>
> > > With no doubt the best cards to use with linux are NVIDIA<br>
> > one's. Their<br>
> > > private drivers runs like a charm in linux machines. And<br>
> > they are a<br>
> > > couple of steps advanced with respect to ATI, at least in<br>
> > linux...<br>
> > ><br>
> > > The problem you are experiencing is that gvSIG 3D can't find<br>
> > your<br>
> > > libGL.so.1 implementation (usually in /usr/lib/ ). It has<br>
> > been fixed<br>
> > > for Mesa drivers, but not for ATI private drivers. You can<br>
> > take a look<br>
> > > in the script gvSIG.sh to see what we do with mesa drivers<br>
> > and try to<br>
> > > do something similar. Or you can, of course, wait for RC1<br>
> > version.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > As ben recommended, take a look to phoronix, and compare<br>
> > chipsets and<br>
> > > drivers.... :)<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Cheers.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > 2011/1/10 Nicklas Avén < <a href="mailto:nicklas.aven@jordogskog.no">nicklas.aven@jordogskog.no</a> ><br>
> > > Here it comes :-)<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 13:27 +0100, Jordi Torres<br>
> > wrote:<br>
> > > > Hi Nicklas,<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > Can you send the<br>
> > > > file<br>
> > /home/nicklas/gvSIG_1.10/bin/hs_err_pid6059.log ? This<br>
> > > file<br>
> > > > contains the log for the native crash.<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > As Benjamin said, ATI 3D support in linux have<br>
> > been<br>
> > > problematic for a<br>
> > > > long time. Anyway we know we have a problem with<br>
> > ati cards<br>
> > > in linux<br>
> > > > and private drivers. We will do our best to fix it<br>
> > for RC1<br>
> > > version.<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > Cheers.<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > ><br>
> > > ><br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > 2011/1/10 Nicklas Avén<br>
> > < <a href="mailto:nicklas.aven@jordogskog.no">nicklas.aven@jordogskog.no</a> ><br>
> > > > I have had some problems seeing the<br>
> > beginning of the<br>
> > > startup<br>
> > > > of gcSIG<br>
> > > > since it was too long to be scrollable in<br>
> > the<br>
> > > terminal. But<br>
> > > > now I<br>
> > > > outputted it to file and I am not sure it<br>
> > is about<br>
> > > the video<br>
> > > > card.<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > I attach both glxint and the output of the<br>
> > gvSIG<br>
> > > start that<br>
> > > > ends with a<br>
> > > > crash<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > When I installed I tried to just follow<br>
> > the<br>
> > > instructions which<br>
> > > > resulted<br>
> > > > in two folders in my home directory:<br>
> > > > gvSIG and gvSIG_1.10<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > to start I have to manually kick on script<br>
> > gvSIG-sh<br>
> > > in<br>
> > > > bin-directory under gvSIG_1.10<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > ><br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > Thanks<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > Nicklas<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > here comes glxinfo output as attachment.<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > My system is Ubuntu 10.4 64 bit<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > I have had some problems getting the error<br>
> > text. I<br>
> > > cannot find<br>
> > > > it in ant<br>
> > > > log and the text is so long so the start<br>
> > with the<br>
> > > actual<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 12:58 +0100, Jordi<br>
> > Torres<br>
> > > wrote:<br>
> > > > > Hi Nicklas,<br>
> > > > ><br>
> > > > > About PostGis tables giving 2D<br>
> > geometries is a bug<br>
> > > that have<br>
> > > > been<br>
> > > > > tracked and a fixed[1]. The fix (a patch<br>
> > submitted<br>
> > > by Jose<br>
> > > > Carlos<br>
> > > > > Martínez from UPV) are not in the svn<br>
> > yet, is<br>
> > > waiting to be<br>
> > > > assigned<br>
> > > > > and merged. We hope it will be merged<br>
> > for gvSIG<br>
> > > 1.11<br>
> > > > release.<br>
> > > > ><br>
> > > > > With respect to your ATI card: are you<br>
> > using<br>
> > > driver Mesa or<br>
> > > > fglrx? Can<br>
> > > > > you send to the list a glxinfo output<br>
> > please?<br>
> > > > ><br>
> > > > > Thanks for test the 3D extension!<br>
> > > > ><br>
> > > > > Cheers.<br>
> > > > ><br>
> > > > > 2011/1/10 Nicklas Avén<br>
> > > < <a href="mailto:nicklas.aven@jordogskog.no">nicklas.aven@jordogskog.no</a> ><br>
> > > > > Hallo<br>
> > > > ><br>
> > > > > Actually I started trying some<br>
> > the last<br>
> > > week without<br>
> > > > knowing<br>
> > > > > it was that<br>
> > > > > new :-)<br>
> > > > ><br>
> > > > > What I have tried is against<br>
> > PostGIS in an<br>
> > > attempt<br>
> > > > to<br>
> > > > > visualize the new<br>
> > > > > polyhedral surface and 3D<br>
> > distance<br>
> > > functions in the<br>
> > > > trunk<br>
> > > > > comming in<br>
> > > > > PostGIS 2.0.<br>
> > > > ><br>
> > > > > In Ubuntu gvSIG crashes when I<br>
> > have the<br>
> > > extension<br>
> > > > installed. I<br>
> > > > > translated some spanish post<br>
> > with google<br>
> > > on the<br>
> > > > subject and I<br>
> > > > > guess it<br>
> > > > > is a problem with my ATI-card.<br>
> > The<br>
> > > symptoms looked<br>
> > > > very<br>
> > > > > similar. Is<br>
> > > > > there a solution for that?<br>
> > > > ><br>
> > > > > In windows I had some other<br>
> > trouble. When<br>
> > > I had<br>
> > > > defined and<br>
> > > > > opened a 3D<br>
> > > > > view I could open a PostGIS<br>
> > table, but I<br>
> > > didn't get<br>
> > > > the third<br>
> > > > > dimmension. Properties said that<br>
> > it was a<br>
> > > 2d<br>
> > > > polygon. I guess<br>
> > > > > that can<br>
> > > > > be a JDBC-problem. But I don't<br>
> > know enough<br>
> > > about<br>
> > > > that to say<br>
> > > > > anything.<br>
> > > > ><br>
> > > > > Another problem on windows was<br>
> > that when I<br>
> > > had<br>
> > > > loaded my<br>
> > > > > postgis table<br>
> > > > > the cpu went wild. some<br>
> > java-process took<br>
> > > all<br>
> > > > recourses.<br>
> > > > ><br>
> > > > > All this was maybe a week ago.<br>
> > > > ><br>
> > > > > But I saw the idea, and it<br>
> > looked<br>
> > > great :-)<br>
> > > > ><br>
> > > > ><br>
> > > > > Regards<br>
> > > > > Nicklas Avén<br>
> > > > ><br>
> > > > ><br>
> > > > ><br>
> > > > ><br>
> > > > ><br>
> > > > > On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 12:02<br>
> > +0100, Jordi<br>
> > > Torres<br>
> > > > wrote:<br>
> > > > > > Hi gvSIG users!<br>
> > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > As many of you already know,<br>
> > the gvSIG<br>
> > > 3D team is<br>
> > > > working<br>
> > > > > hard to get<br>
> > > > > > a final version of the 3D<br>
> > extension.<br>
> > > During<br>
> > > > christmas<br>
> > > > > hollydays a beta<br>
> > > > > > version have been released.<br>
> > After this<br>
> > > version we<br>
> > > > will<br>
> > > > > create<br>
> > > > > > consecutives RC (release<br>
> > candidates)<br>
> > > fixing the<br>
> > > > bugs<br>
> > > > > detected to<br>
> > > > > > arrive to the final release.<br>
> > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > We are specially interested in<br>
> > the<br>
> > > community<br>
> > > > testing and<br>
> > > > > feedback,<br>
> > > > > > because the proper functioning<br>
> > of this<br>
> > > extension<br>
> > > > depends on<br>
> > > > > the<br>
> > > > > > hardware and drivers used. Our<br>
> > target is<br>
> > > to detect<br>
> > > > the<br>
> > > > > maximum number<br>
> > > > > > of bugs, and which<br>
> > configurations are<br>
> > > working<br>
> > > > well/bad to<br>
> > > > > fix these<br>
> > > > > > problems in the RC1 version.<br>
> > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > We recommend to take a look to<br>
> > the<br>
> > > minimum<br>
> > > > requirements[1]<br>
> > > > > before to<br>
> > > > > > install the 3D extension[2],<br>
> > and do it<br>
> > > in a<br>
> > > > separate gvSIG<br>
> > > > > 1.10 final<br>
> > > > > > installation. All your<br>
> > comments,<br>
> > > suggestions and<br>
> > > > bug reports<br>
> > > > > are<br>
> > > > > > wellcome. You can write to<br>
> > gvSIG<br>
> > > distribution<br>
> > > > lists or to<br>
> > > > > the gvSIG 3D<br>
> > > > > > blog[3], where you can find<br>
> > > videotutorials and use<br>
> > > > examples.<br>
> > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > Thank you very much in<br>
> > advance!<br>
> > > > > ><br>
> > > > > ><br>
> > > > ><br>
> > > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > [1]<br>
> > <a href="https://gvsig.org/web/projects/gvsig-desktop/official/gvsig-1.10/extensiones-gvsig-1.10/extension-3d/system-requirements/view?set_language=en" target="_blank">https://gvsig.org/web/projects/gvsig-desktop/official/gvsig-1.10/extensiones-gvsig-1.10/extension-3d/system-requirements/view?set_language=en</a><br>
> > > > > ><br>
> > > > ><br>
> > > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > [2]<br>
> > <a href="https://gvsig.org/web/projects/gvsig-desktop/official/gvsig-1.10/extensiones-gvsig-1.10/extension-3d/downloads" target="_blank">https://gvsig.org/web/projects/gvsig-desktop/official/gvsig-1.10/extensiones-gvsig-1.10/extension-3d/downloads</a><br>
> > > > > > [3] <a href="http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com" target="_blank">http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com</a><br>
> > > > > ><br>
> > > > > ><br>
> > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > -- Jordi Torres Fabra --<br>
> > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > gvSIG 3D blog<br>
> > > > > > <a href="http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com" target="_blank">http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com</a> Instituto de Automática e<br>
> > Informática<br>
> > > Industrial<br>
> > > > > > <a href="http://www.ai2.upv.es" target="_blank">http://www.ai2.upv.es</a><br>
> > > > ><br>
> > > > ><br>
> > > > > ><br>
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> > > > ><br>
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> > > > ><br>
> > > > ><br>
> > > > ><br>
> > > > ><br>
> > > > > -- Jordi Torres Fabra<br>
> > > > ><br>
> > > > > gvSIG 3D blog<br>
> > > > > <a href="http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com" target="_blank">http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com</a> Instituto de Automática e<br>
> > > > > Informática<br>
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> > > ><br>
> > > ><br>
> > > ><br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > -- Jordi Torres Fabra<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > gvSIG 3D blog<br>
> > > > <a href="http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com" target="_blank">http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com</a> Instituto de Automática e<br>
> > > > Informática Industrial<br>
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> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > -- Jordi Torres Fabra<br>
> > ><br>
> > > gvSIG 3D blog<br>
> > > <a href="http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com" target="_blank">http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com</a> Instituto de Automática e Informática<br>
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