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    Hello,<br>
    <br>
    google coordinates are EPSG:3785, I think? (old name: EPSG:900913) -
    That was the easiest way to get coordinates. I have used the map for
    u-center (from u-blox), because of using that application for
    testing last year. So I easily could lookup zthe upper edge. I did
    not have any Desktop GIS installed, perhaps I should do that ;) but
    I will need a map of the region with identical points, don't I? or
    is it possibvle to transform by click and enter coordinates?<br>
    <br>
    Concerning your new map image: Did you change/rescale the image? it
    is not the same anymore, so the new worldfile cannot be compared.<br>
    <br>
    As mentioned before, the image is not in EPSG:4326 obviously,
    otherwise it would not have to be resized by gvSIG Mobile ;) and the
    ratio is not really small, I think...it is rather 0.5 in height or
    something surround it?<br>
    <br>
    Regards,<br>
    <br>
    Marcel<br>
    <br>
    Am 01.04.2011 09:22, schrieb Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio:
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        <div><font size="3" color="#000000" face="Times New Roman">Hello,
            I have realized that in your JGW file the first and fourth
            parameters dont have the same absolute value:</font></div>
        <div>&nbsp;</div>
        <div><font size="3" color="#000000" face="Times New Roman">1.073E-05</font></div>
        <div><font size="3" color="#000000" face="Times New Roman">0</font></div>
        <div><font size="3" color="#000000" face="Times New Roman">0</font></div>
        <div><font size="3" color="#000000" face="Times New Roman">-6.352E-06</font></div>
        <div><font size="3" color="#000000" face="Times New Roman">9.125678</font></div>
        <div><font size="3" color="#000000" face="Times New Roman">53.490805</font></div>
        <div>&nbsp;</div>
        <div><font size="3" color="#000000" face="Times New Roman">This
            is not wrong, but maybe the application is not dealing well
            with it.</font></div>
        <div>&nbsp;</div>
        <div><font size="3" color="#000000" face="Times New Roman">To
            create ECW images, &nbsp;I have used FWTools <a
              moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://fwtools.maptools.org">http://fwtools.maptools.org</a></font></div>
        <div>&nbsp;</div>
        <div><font size="3" color="#000000" face="Times New Roman">-
            install</font></div>
        <div><font size="3" color="#000000" face="Times New Roman">-
            Start the command-line terminal from the new icon</font></div>
        <div><font size="3" color="#000000" face="Times New Roman">-
            move to the folder where the files are (cd ...)</font></div>
        <div><font size="3" color="#000000" face="Times New Roman">-
            type something like:</font></div>
        <div>&nbsp;</div>
        <div><font size="3" color="#000000" face="Times New Roman">gdal_translate
            -of ecw jpg-map.jpg ecw-map.ecw</font></div>
        <div><font size="3" color="#000000" face="Times New Roman">(JPG
            and JGW files in the current folder)</font></div>
        <div>&nbsp;</div>
        <div><font size="3" color="#000000" face="Times New Roman">I
            have recreated the JPG and JGW to have the same absolute
            value in the first and fourth parameters:</font></div>
        <div>&nbsp;</div>
        <div><font size="3" color="#000000" face="Times New Roman"><a
              moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="https://correo.prodevelop.es/descarga/gvsig/mobile/new_map.zip">https://correo.prodevelop.es/descarga/gvsig/mobile/new_map.zip</a></font></div>
        <div>&nbsp;</div>
        <div><font size="3" color="#000000" face="Times New Roman">Try
            that one and see if the image is ok now.</font></div>
        <div>&nbsp;</div>
        <div><font size="3" color="#000000" face="Times New Roman">More
            info:</font></div>
        <div>&nbsp;</div>
        <div><font size="3" color="#000000" face="Times New Roman"><a
              moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="http://www.gdal.org/gdal_utilities.html">http://www.gdal.org/gdal_utilities.html</a></font></div>
        <div><font size="3" color="#000000" face="Times New Roman"><a
              moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="http://www.gdal.org/ogr_utilities.html">http://www.gdal.org/ogr_utilities.html</a></font></div>
        <div>&nbsp;</div>
        <div><font size="3" color="#000000" face="Times New Roman">************</font></div>
        <div>&nbsp;</div>
        <div><font size="3" color="#000000" face="Times New Roman">Apart
            from&nbsp;that, this is another consideration not related to the
            previous problem:</font></div>
        <div>&nbsp;</div>
        <div><font size="3" color="#000000" face="Times New Roman">How
            did you create that image? Your original JPG seems to be
            using a projected SRS (like Google's EPSG:900913 or the
            German EPSG:3146X).</font></div>
        <div>&nbsp;</div>
        <div><font size="3" color="#000000" face="Times New Roman">Did
            you simply compute the coordinates in EPSG:4326 of the
            corners and wrote the JGW file by hand? That would not be
            correct because there is not a linear relation between those
            SRS (in other words, the "rule of three" does not work with
            them). In this case, the error would be not visible because
            it's a small area (so actually that would be a simple, valid
            approximation), but it's always better to do a proper
            reprojection with gvSIG or FWTools, for example.</font></div>
        <div>&nbsp;</div>
        <div>&nbsp;</div>
        <div><font size="3" color="#000000" face="Times New Roman">Regards,</font></div>
        <div><font size="2" face="Courier New"><font size="3"
              face="Times New Roman">Juan Lucas Dom&iacute;nguez Rubio<br>
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          <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gvsig_internacional-bounces@listserv.gva.es">gvsig_internacional-bounces@listserv.gva.es</a> en nombre de
          Marcel Schoolmeesters<br>
          <b>Enviado el:</b> jue 31/03/2011 20:36<br>
          <b>Para:</b> Users and Developers mailing list<br>
          <b>Asunto:</b> Re: [Gvsig_english] Importing a raster image
          with gvSIG Mobile<br>
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      <div>Hello,<br>
        <br>
        <br>
        well, I have created the image for myself with google
        coordinates :-) and I've checked the coordinates of the image
        and of the cursor...of course....so definitely, it is the image,
        which is not scaled correctly each time, you can see when
        looking at those screenshots. The image must be compressed in
        height (using EPSG:4326) because of the location at 53&deg; N...<br>
        <br>
        I've checked the ECW and it looks and works fine,....can you
        tell me the commands to create an ecw-file from worldfile? it is
        a commandline tool, right?<br>
        <br>
        And of course, you mention the "lot of things" the application
        is doing while zoom or pan....but the image is even not
        compressed in height being shown the first time (without any
        zoom)<br>
        <br>
        Well, I think that should be checked...if yomebody got time...it
        is not important to me at the moment...it might be nice to show
        some bugs, too :-) but don't know if it is planned to change in
        gvsig mobile 1.0?<br>
        <br>
        <br>
        Regards<br>
        Marcel<br>
        <br>
        <br>
        <br>
        <br>
        Am 31.03.2011 19:10, schrieb Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio:
        <blockquote>
          <div id="idOWAReplyText28773">
            <div><font size="3" color="#000000" face="Times New Roman">Hello,thanks
                for the files.</font></div>
            <div>&nbsp;</div>
            <div>I mean that when you do zoom and pan in gvSIG Mobile,
              the application does a lot of little things in order to
              draw the image using as little memory as possible, and if
              one of those steps is wrong, then the image might be
              misplaced, but I have never noticed this.</div>
            <div>&nbsp;</div>
            <div>I remember that there is a little bug that causes the
              GPS arrow to be misplaced when you do some zoom and pan:
              until the next GPS coordinates arrive (and refreshes the
              GPS arrow), it can be misplaced. Maybe that's the problem
              you noticed? Is the arrow misplaced even after you have
              received several new GPS coordinates?</div>
            <div>&nbsp;</div>
            <div>To find out who is misplaced (the image or the arrow)
              you can load a shapefile (which always is ok, I think).You
              can download some ECW and SHP of Bremenvorde from here:</div>
            <div>&nbsp;</div>
            <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="https://correo.prodevelop.es/descarga/gvsig/mobile/">https://correo.prodevelop.es/descarga/gvsig/mobile/</a></div>
            <div>&nbsp;</div>
            <div>&nbsp;</div>
            <div>The files called "...31467..." are in EPSG:31467, in
              case you prefer those. I created them with GDAL and OGR,
              so I think they have a little error of 1 or&nbsp;2 meters
              (which I think is not a problem in this case).</div>
            <div>&nbsp;</div>
            <div>So if you load the JPG, then the SHP and use the GPS,
              what happens?</div>
            <div>&nbsp;</div>
            <div>If the SHP and the JPG are consistent and the GPS is
              misplaced,&nbsp;then there is a bug related to the GPS
              arrow&nbsp;(temporarily? always?)</div>
            <div>&nbsp;</div>
            <div>If the GPS and the SHP are consistent and the JPG is
              not, then there is a problem with the WKR driver.</div>
            <div>&nbsp;</div>
            <div>&nbsp;</div>
            <div>Regards,</div>
            <div><font size="2" face="Courier New"><font size="3"
                  face="Times New Roman">Juan Lucas Dom&iacute;nguez Rubio<br>
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                    face="Courier New"><font size="2" face="Courier New">Tlf.:
                      96.351.06.12 -- Fax: 96.351.09.68<br>
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            <font size="2" face="Tahoma"><b>De:</b> <a
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href="mailto:gvsig_internacional-bounces@listserv.gva.es">gvsig_internacional-bounces@listserv.gva.es</a>
              en nombre de Marcel Schoolmeesters<br>
              <b>Enviado el:</b> jue 31/03/2011 17:54<br>
              <b>Para:</b> Users and Developers mailing list<br>
              <b>Asunto:</b> Re: [Gvsig_english] Importing a raster
              image with gvSIG Mobile<br>
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          <div>Hello.<br>
            <br>
            I know those performance problems. But <u><b>if</b></u> the
            transformation is performed, it should <u>not</u> be wrong
            I think :) better would be an error message which tells the
            user that the image is too big or something...<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            I cannot upload the image (25MB *.png or 5MB *.jpg), but I
            have uploaded the jpg to rapidshare, instead. <i>(The png
              file is about 2MB&nbsp; too big, it won't even be loaded, so I
              did not upload it)</i><br>
            <blockquote>JPG: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
                href="http://rapidshare.com/files/455277713/jpg-raster.zip">http://rapidshare.com/files/455277713/jpg-raster.zip</a><br>
              ECW: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
                href="http://rapidshare.com/files/455279357/ecw-map.ecw">http://rapidshare.com/files/455279357/ecw-map.ecw</a><br>
            </blockquote>
            <br>
            I have compressed the file to ecw, too, but it is not
            geo-referenced, I think. I tried AU ECW Compressor...because
            the manual says, it will add geo-information...but it
            doesn't....not from an extra worldfile.<br>
            <br>
            Well, to load the worldfile of the JPG, you need to change
            the getWorldFileExtensions() in WKFRasterDriver.java, I
            think. Or change the extension to *.wld... but I'm sure, you
            know. (however, jgw seems to be the default one, isn't it?)
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
            Regards,<br>
            <br>
            Marcel<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
            Am 31.03.2011 17:04, schrieb Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio:
            <blockquote>
              <div id="idOWAReplyText37810">
                <div><font size="3" color="#000000" face="Times New
                    Roman">Hello, </font></div>
                <div>When zooming in and out with a non-ECW image, the
                  app&nbsp;performs some shift and clip operations to
                  minimize the amount of memory needed. I have never
                  seen any&nbsp;strange&nbsp;bevavior there, but&nbsp;there might be a
                  bug, yes.</div>
                <div>&nbsp;</div>
                <div>gdal_translate (FWTools) is free and creates
                  faster, more reliable ECW images.</div>
                <div>&nbsp;</div>
                <div>which format are you using?
                  <div>can you send the image to the list? (with the
                    georef. file if it's not a ecw file)</div>
                </div>
                <div>&nbsp;</div>
                <div>Regards,</div>
              </div>
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                <div><font size="2" face="Courier New"><font size="3"
                      face="Times New Roman">Juan Lucas Dom&iacute;nguez Rubio<br>
                    </font>---</font></div>
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                        face="Courier New"><font size="2" face="Courier
                          New">Tlf.: 96.351.06.12 -- Fax: 96.351.09.68<br>
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                  en nombre de Marcel Schoolmeesters<br>
                  <b>Enviado el:</b> jue 31/03/2011 16:51<br>
                  <b>Para:</b> Users and Developers mailing list<br>
                  <b>Asunto:</b> Re: [Gvsig_english] Importing a raster
                  image with gvSIG Mobile<br>
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              <div>Hey all,<br>
                <br>
                I've got new interesting findings :-)<br>
                <ul>
                  <li>The error of the height of the image does<u> not
                      appear at all</u> when I zoom <b>three </b>times.
                  </li>
                  <li>When I zoom <b>twice</b>, the error appears<u>
                      only in the middle </u>of the image, but not when
                    I see the background of the Map! I cannot say
                    exactly,... </li>
                  <li>But when I does not zoom or<i><b> only once...or
                        four times or more</b></i>... the image is<u>
                      not resized </u>I think...it is the original
                    ratio.... </li>
                </ul>
                I have got some screenshots, so that you might
                understand it better :)<br>
                <br>
                Perhaps, it is a graphical bug? I don't know...perhaps,
                somebody's got an idea? would be cool to be fixed!<br>
                <br>
                <br>
                Regards,<br>
                <br>
                Marcel<br>
                <br>
                <br>
                Am 30.03.2011 16:42, schrieb Marcel Schoolmeesters:
                <blockquote>Thanks for the explanation.<br>
                  <br>
                  As I said, the ImageExt values are correct...(y is
                  calculated by _y + _h, I think) .....I have debugged
                  the data flow and everything is understandable up to
                  this function (and afterwards. What the function is
                  doing might be clear, and even the values of the
                  viewRect, too,...after your little explanation, what
                  should be self-evident :-) <br>
                  <br>
                  However, the final lower/left edge of the picture is
                  not shown at 53.475096504&deg; where it should be, but
                  somewhere at 53.464...and I cannot find the code where
                  this is calculated...(but better to say that I have
                  given up because of so many steps...)<br>
                  <br>
                  Best regards,<br>
                  <br>
                  Marcel<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  Am 30.03.2011 09:32, schrieb Juan Lucas Dominguez
                  Rubio:
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                      <div><font size="3" color="#000000" face="Times
                          New Roman">Hello,</font></div>
                      <div>that method computes the extent of the view
                        when you add the first layer. The app knows the
                        size of the screen and the extent of the layer,
                        and their ratios are different, so you have to
                        do a simple computation to find out the extent
                        of the new view.</div>
                      <div>&nbsp;</div>
                      <div>Maybe you have misunderstood the&nbsp;extent of a
                        layer and the extent of the view?</div>
                      <div>&nbsp;</div>
                      <div>When you add the first layer, the extent of
                        the view is the smallest rectangle which
                        contains the extent of the layer and,&nbsp;at the
                        same time,&nbsp;respects&nbsp;the width/height ratio of
                        the screen, of course.</div>
                      <div>&nbsp;</div>
                      <div>Regards,</div>
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                            Dom&iacute;nguez Rubio<br>
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                      <font size="2" face="Tahoma"><b>De:</b> <a
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                        en nombre de Marcel Schoolmeesters<br>
                        <b>Enviado el:</b> mar 29/03/2011 21:20<br>
                        <b>Para:</b> Users and Developers mailing list<br>
                        <b>Asunto:</b> Re: [Gvsig_english] Importing a
                        raster image with gvSIG Mobile<br>
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                    <div>well, I think the main problem of understanding
                      is in function MapContext.<b>getExtentFromFullExtentAndImageSize</b>()
                      ... I think the new height etc are calculated
                      there? <br>
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                      Am 29.03.2011 21:00, schrieb Marcel
                      Schoolmeesters:
                      <blockquote>Hello, <br>
                        <br>
                        I have tried to load a raster image (had to try
                        jpg, because *.png did not even load), but I am
                        getting a wrong position of the extent. Anybody
                        got the same error? <br>
                        <br>
                        I have tried the debug mode, but there are too
                        many functions to catch on. Perhaps anybody can
                        help? <br>
                        <br>
                        Somewhere the map origin is changed from the
                        upper edge to the lower edge, that far I could
                        follow, but then the image extent (height) and
                        the origin coords (of Y) has been changed. Why?
                        it seems to be very hard to understand the whole
                        way of building the image at the right place. <br>
                        <br>
                        However, in attachment the original rectangle
                        and the changed one are shown with their values
                        while debugging... <br>
                        <br>
                        The lower edge of the final image is positioned
                        between those Y values (@ 53.464) but it needs
                        to be positioned at 53.475.... <br>
                        <br>
                        what is getRasterTansformation() actually doing?
                        <br>
                        <br>
                        <br>
                        Thanks in advance, if anybody can help. However,
                        that issue should be fixed, I think. The import
                        of PNG is not even possible, as I mentioned
                        before.. <br>
                        <br>
                        Regards <br>
                        <br>
                        Marcel <br>
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