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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi all,</span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I total agree with Nacho and I would like to give my point of view of the “language aspect of the project”.</span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>As all of us know the origin of gvSIG was to resolve a local need of a Spanish Public Administration where all the documentation was in Spanish. gvSIG has growth a lot and it has become in to an international project, and because of that the project has been translated not only into English but other languages, thank you to the big effort of the translators all over the world.</span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Of course to have gvSIG well documented in will help us to spread the project and also to have more gvSIG Community (users and developers) involved in the development of the project.</span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>We are on the right way to get it, because, thank you to the CGS of Nottingham (Honorary Members of the gvSIG Association) , we have been participated at OSGIS 20011 (UK) with another gvSIG’s Day (this one is the second celebrated there) [1], in order to build a gvSIG Community there how could help us to deal with.</span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>In this occasion, although the the gvSIG’s Day was held at the same time as the main conference, we had 30 attendees not only to the technological sessions but also to the workshop in the evening about the project, gvSIG Association, Communities and how to collaborate with the project. They were really interested about the organization of the project on all of its aspects (, and we provide them all the information the economical aspects of the projects, what we call “gvSIG Business Model”. We put all the links and English documentation in hands of the OS UK Community.</span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>By the way, in order to be “open” we are collaborating as well with the ELOGeo Project (An e-Learning Framework for Using Geospatial Open Data, Open Source and Open Standards) [2]. We hope to plant the seed to set up an UK gvSIG Community there, without the need of creating a fork to improve the “English aspect” of the project.</span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Best regards!!</span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Amelia del Rey</span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>[1] <a href="http://cgs.nottingham.ac.uk/~osgis11/gvSIGDay.pdf">http://cgs.nottingham.ac.uk/~osgis11/gvSIGDay.pdf</a></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>[2] <a href="http://elogeo.nottingham.ac.uk/">http://elogeo.nottingham.ac.uk/</a></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>De:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> gvsig_internacional-bounces@listserv.gva.es [mailto:gvsig_internacional-bounces@listserv.gva.es] <b>En nombre de </b>Nacho Uve<br><b>Enviado el:</b> miércoles, 29 de junio de 2011 14:12<br><b>Para:</b> Users and Developers mailing list<br><b>Asunto:</b> Re: [Gvsig_english] Query on why gvSIG CE came about</span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal> </p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Hi,<br><br>There are some substantial differences between all initiatives you mentioned. AFAIK, none of them <span class=hps>has the characteristics</span>, intentions and <span class=hps>actions</span> <span class=hps>performed</span> <span class=hps>in parallel</span> like CE propose to do<span class=hps>. </span><br><br>In my HUMBLE opinion, CE is not integrating contributors for gvSIG project. <span class=hps>Noting</span><span class=shorttext> </span><span class=hps>the progress of</span><span class=shorttext> </span><span class=hps>the initiative</span>, CE don't want participate and follow some simple rules of gvSIG (documentation, check patches for core-developers (soon... maintainer and reviewers), user gvSIG-devel-list to coordinate changes, etc...) <span class=hps>and decide</span> <span class=hps>on a personal</span> <span class=hps>and totally independent</span> <span class=hps>way about the future of</span> <span class=hps>the software. So, it is a fork.</span><br><br>I insist. There are no reason for a fork in the way gvSIG is open to change things, improve procedures, etc... <span class=hps>The use</span> <span class=hps>of English is</span> not <span class=hps>an excuse. Here we are talking</span> <span class=hps>in English (in my case, trying to speak</span> in english<span class=hps> :P )</span>.<br><br><span class=hps>Having said that</span><span class=shorttext>, </span><span class=hps>I find</span> only one sense <span class=hps>to</span> <span class=hps>C</span>E<span class=hps> inside gvSIG project. It is think about CE like </span>a group of people with freedom and independence, auto-organization, etc.. who develop components (such NavTable...), work together on some aspects (GUI, usability, fixing bugs), proposing changes, etc... After that they communicate all that to gvSIG project and try to integrating that. <br><br>So, please... <span class=hps>If</span> <span class=hps>the CE really</span> <span class=hps>intends to</span> <span class=hps>integrate resources</span> <span class=hps>and collaborate with</span> <span class=hps>gvSIG</span>, it should share<span class=hps> tools</span> <span class=hps>(mailing lists</span>, bug-tracker, <span class=hps>etc.), make direct proposals</span> <span class=hps>for changes, work together, etc.</span> That's the way...<br><br>Please, think about it. <br><br> :-)<br><br>Regards!!!<br>Nacho V.<br><br><br></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>El 29 de junio de 2011 09:02, José Antonio Canalejo Alonso <<a href="mailto:jacanalejo@yahoo.es">jacanalejo@yahoo.es</a>> escribió:</p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I really like the Name: gvSIG Community Edition. It is a very good one. Most of the people in gvSIG CE Team have been working hard to make gvSIG more international. They brought also new functionalities and funding to the official project. They are also members of gvSIG but they aren't in the gvSIG Association. They are not being promoted with the project.<br>Let's talk in gvSIG terms:<br>- gvSIG= official project <br>- gvSIG Mini= unofficial gvSIG project<br>- gvSIG mobile=official project<br>- gvSIG EIEL= proyecto official sectorial<br>- gvSIG carreteras= gvSIG application (probably) official<br>- gvSIG Fonsagua=gvSIG application<br>- NavTable=official extension of gvSIG<br>- gvSIG Sensor=official project<br>- official Communities: Argentina, Brasil, Rusia, Uruguay<br>- andere Communities: are they "unofficial"? are they only communities?<br>- official events: organized with the gvSIG Association (<a href="http://www.gvsig.org/web/community/events/general-proced/">http://www.gvsig.org/web/community/events/general-proced/</a>). <br>- andere gvSIG events: are they "unofficial"? It seems these events are not being promoted with the project (<a href="http://www.gvsig.org/web/community/events/other_events_list/">http://www.gvsig.org/web/community/events/other_events_list/</a>)?? That's not good! :) Next week there is an important one (<a href="http://www.agit.at/">http://www.agit.at/</a>)<br>- etc (there are more gvSIG projects,...)<br>Why do not add gvSIG Community Edition to this list? You can maybe define this project like an unofficial one or like gvSIG CE, trying to make gvSIG more international. We don't want to divide but to integrate: english is the right language for that.<br>gvSIG CE will help to integrate contributors to gvSIG and that will also be positiv for the official project.<br>If we change the name, maybe it seems something similar like LibreOffice and OpenOffice. I think, we shouldn't change it, we're also gvSIG :)<br>Best Regards<br>José<br><span style='color:#888888'>--<br>José Antonio Canalejo Alonso<br>CSGIS<br><a href="mailto:Email%3Ajose.canalejo@csgis.de">Email:jose.canalejo@csgis.de</a><br>Web: <a href="http://www.csgis.de">http://www.csgis.de</a></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#888888'> </span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#888888'> </span></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>Gvsig_internacional mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Gvsig_internacional@listserv.gva.es">Gvsig_internacional@listserv.gva.es</a><br><a href="http://listserv.gva.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gvsig_internacional">http://listserv.gva.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gvsig_internacional</a></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><br>-- </p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Juan Ignacio Varela García </p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> </p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> </p></div></body></html>