[Gvsig_english] Some questions regarding printing

[Wolfgang Qual]

Hello Marcel,
> As following gv_sig development as user side point of view, the
> professionnal printing capability is a must have.
agree.
>
> Actualy, gv_sig is, at least in the future v2, the only opensource gis
> that could do the job of making professionnal map, not only data
> querry or manipulation.
I would like to pass this question to the developers. How would you classify 
gvSIG regarding printing? If professional printing should not be a task of 
gvSIG - where could it be done (for example using scribus,inkscape...)
>
> Since for the user, printing map for distrubution is also a goal,
> prepress output with accurate rendering is a must have (not like in
> arcmap where you can have road in you view but not printout).
As written before, our department used ArcMap to create that cycle map. The 
map was exported into eps and that file was converted into pdf/x1a or x-3 
using Acrobat distiller. That file could be given to the professional 
printing house. Creating that eps and pdf was quite complicated - lots of 
testing and trials were necessary - but it worked, finally.
>
> Actualy we doesn't use gv_sig since the symbology is to basic for map
> making (starving to see the v2).  We stick with arcgis with big
> limitation like problem when using pdf output or tiff output so for
> professionnal printing, after many try, we print wallmap in tiff and
> finish inclusion of picture and others elements in photoshop since
> drift in color when doing all the work in arcmap layout.
Ok. My colleague (who created that cycle map) did not report about problems 
regarding color shift (drift). 
>
> So, to be a solid gis for mapmaking, gv_sig should be able to make all
> the prepress inside the application with prepress standard output like
> pdf/x3 or, beeing able to export the map layout directly in some
> prepress software like (scribus, sk1) to finish the work and then go
> for prepress.
Has anyone some more experience in using scribus (esp. with large files)? I 
only created a flyer using that software (however, using also colour 
profiles, created a pdf/x-3 and gave it to a printing house. Worked great. My 
tests with gvSIG-created ps file were not successful).
>
> Actualy, some opensource gis is available mostly for data manipulation
> and simple mapping.  None of them is close to gv_sig in the map making
> area.  So  I hope gv_sig will completely be able to handle big map
> format to send to prepress.
I also hope this. However, we should also think about alternatives. Many 
people are talking about svg format (--> inkscape, scribus). Also, some more 
tests with scribus would be of great importance, I guess..


Keep on writing...!

Best,
Wolfgang
>
> Marcel
>
> Le 08-07-25 à 05:18, Wolfgang Qual a écrit :
> > Hi list,
> > few months ago, there was a discussion on this list regarding the
> > possibility
> > of creating high-quality printouts, resp. creating printfiles that
> > can be
> > given to a professional printing-service. Thus, it would be necesary
> > to
> > create special pdf-files (for example pdf/x-3, x1a) or create such
> > files out
> > of a ps-file in an external application. At the moment, this seems
> > not be
> > possible using gvSIG and available external applications, because of
> > different reasons:
> > * ps/pdf-Export of gvSIG is limited - depeding on the size of the
> > content of
> > the map, exporting seems to be a problem (even with quite some RAM),
> > some
> > symbology information is missing and a known bug regarding labeling
> > * to my knowledge, it is not possible to process ps-files to pdf/x-3-
> > files
> > using open source software (such as scribus, which can save pdf-
> > documents in
> > x-3-format).
> > So why do I write all this?
> > Well, first, I would be interested in the opinion of the developers.
> > What is
> > foreseen for the future regarding "professional printing": do you
> > see gvSIG
> > to become an application, which should allow users to create files
> > that can
> > be used for professional printing purpose? If gvSIG itself won't do
> > the job,
> > it should be possible to create export-files which can be used
> > within a
> > dtp-programme or any other program that allows the creation of the
> > requested
> > files.
> > What about users: how do you deal with this issue? What is you opinion
> > regarding "professional printing". Do you consider it as necessary
> > or are you
> > just happy with the printing functionality of the current version?
> > Right now, it is already possible to quickly create a paper map of
> > your
> > project. This is already very good and I like the map composer very
> > much.
> > However, I think that we should discuss about the next step. I would
> > be very
> > glad, if you would add *your opionion*. We - the Department of
> > Health and
> > Environment of the City of Munich would like to create a cycle map
> > using an
> > open source tool - using gvSIG. Therefore, that topic is of growing
> > importance. Maybe other users do plan similar things. I am really
> > looking
> > forward to hearing from you....
> >
> > Best,
> > Wolfgang
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