[Gvsig_english] The Printing Issue: The "definitive" wish and development list ; )

Marcel St-Germain pvmstg at videotron.ca
Sat Oct 25 03:24:01 CEST 2008


Hi all,

So for printing, Wolfgang you include graticule but... we included  
many in the same maps.  Like utm, dd-mm-ss and for some maps, also  
cell to place and index so, we have to be able to ajust the size and  
the position of these to make a nice print of each of them on top of  
the other.

Also, since some font are copyright and can't be include, the  
hability, like in arcmap to convert them to vector shoud be include.

For the rotation of the arrow, it shoul be link to the view rotation  
so,if the view is rotate, when selecting an arrow, it show the right  
direction.  Maybe the hability to have also a magnetic arrow where we  
can manualy indicate the deviation could be a plus.


Le 08-10-24 à 10:27, Wolfgang Qual a écrit :

> Hi Silvio and all others.
> thanks for thanking me. Actually, I would like to thank all who  
> contributed to
> this mailing list regarding this printing issue.
> What I really would like very much: could you add your additional  
> comments to
> that "precise" list? Just copy the old one and paste it into your  
> reply. The
> next one could copy it again, and so on. I guess this will save much  
> time -
> we can just give that one list then to the developers.
>
> A very nice weekend to you all!
> Best,
> Wolfgang
>
> Am Freitag 24 Oktober 2008 16:00:52 schrieb silvio grosso:
>> Hello Wolfgang and all,
>>
>> First of all thank you very much for your hard work regarding this  
>> list.
>> No wonder Germans are everywhere famous about their precision :-)
>>
>> Regarding the Map's list I would like to add something in the bugs'  
>> list.
>> In the map there is a bug well known by Spanish developers  
>> regarding the
>> export to pdf function. When you change the colour in the  
>> background in the
>> View from white to something else (e.g. yellow) and your map has this
>> background (yellow) such a colour is "lost" in the pdf exported  
>> (the pdf
>> background is always white). I verified this bug both on Windows xp  
>> and
>> Windows 2000 with the latest gvSIG release.
>>
>> About the wish-list, Spanish developers asked us to write something  
>> else so
>> here it is:

>> 1. My first wish is having no bugs regarding the map tool.
>> Actually, I know it is impossible so bear with me :-) 2. Speaking
>> seriously, I would like to have the option to draw some arrows in  
>> the map.
>> At present, you can only draw lines (no arrows). Another option is to
>> create an arrow with Inkscape and import it as svg in the gvSIG's  
>> map. 3.
>> It would be good to rotate the North arrow and colour them (as you  
>> can do
>> with the other tools in the map). At present, you can modifiy the  
>> North
>> arrow with Inkscape and load your version in the gvSIG's map. 3.  
>> Another
>> wish is to have an option to choose my shortcut regarding a tool in  
>> the Map
>> (or in the View) The easy way for developers could be add some  
>> shortcuts by
>> default (now there are few shortcuts in my opinion). The very best  
>> is the
>> option to add some personal shortcuts.
>> This is very important when you work with a graphical software  
>> (Blender is
>> famous for its shortcut). Working with Gimp, I find quicker using the
>> keybord instead of the mouse (I only press something and the tool  
>> gets
>> activated). In the end you learn all shortcuts by heart.
>>
>> About the testing part I would like to add something about Scribus,
>> Scribus development is proceding slower than expected!
>> The really good version will be the 1.3.6 one but it is really far...
>> All Scribus developers are volunters so it is nobody's fault!
>> In short, right now, it is important to use the 1.3.3.12 version  
>> not the
>> 1.3.5 one which is not ready yet. I can do some testing with  
>> Scribus in the
>> future.
>> Unfortunately, right now, I am translating the gvSIG's manual into  
>> Italian.
>> I suspect the other Italians translators are going to kill me if I  
>> don't
>> finish my translation part quickly :-)
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Silvio
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Messaggio originale -----
>> Da: Wolfgang Qual <wolfgang.qual at gmx.net>
>> A: gvsig_internacional at runas.cap.gva.es
>> Inviato: Venerdì 24 ottobre 2008, 11:21:20
>> Oggetto: [Gvsig_english] The Printing Issue: The "definitive" wish  
>> and
>> development list ; )
>>
>> Hi all,
>> I tried to collect all ideas and questions regarding the "printing- 
>> issue"
>> and put it on a list. I would be glad, if you could go through it  
>> and add /
>> change it. After completion, I would suggest that we give that list  
>> to the
>> developers in order to "hear" their comments.
>> Important for me is that we start/keep on testing external  
>> applications
>> like scribus. I would really appreciate, if we could organize that  
>> a little
>> bit, collect some "reports" on that. It will help us to decide,  
>> what's
>> really important for our purposes... And here comes the list:
>>
>> 1) Printing bugs
>> 1.1) wms-layer is not exported when printing to pdf
>> 1.2) printing size of labels different from size of labels in  
>> view / layout
>> (map)
>> 1.3) labels are not drawn on the map (Rory Hill, 6.6.08)
>> 1.4) transformed labels of annotation layer are not drawn (6.6.08,  
>> Silvio
>> Grosso)
>> 1.5) printing to ps/pdf (large map) resulted in a uncomplete ps/pdf- 
>> file -
>> even with quite some memory (25.7. Wolfgang Q)
>> 1.6) North arrows (svg) loose quality when map is exported to pdf
>> 1.7) all fonts should be embedded into ps/pdf-file (are they???)
>> 1.8) elements of map are deleted when typing in name of output ps/ 
>> pdf-file
>> (Wolfgang, 16.10) -- known bug. When will it be resolved?
>>
>> 2) Development of printing module
>> 2.1) Possibility to create printfiles ready for professional printing
>> (pdf/x-3 etc.)
>> 2.2) Possibility to export to eps-format with different resolution  
>> (300,
>> 600 dpi)
>> 2.3) Export map to image format
>> 2.3.1) tiff (best quality, compression yes/no
>> 2.3.1) jpg, png
>> 2.4) export map to vector format
>> 2.4.1) svg
>> 2.5) allow export of components of the map (not only the whole  
>> layout)
>> 2.6) add functionality to add graticules and coordinates around the  
>> map
>> (like in grass, gmt?) (new wish)
>>
>>
>> 3) What we have to test:
>> 3.1) try to load eps-files (big ones) into
>> 3.1.1) scribus
>> 3.1.2) sk1
>> 3.2) test svg-import in scribus, check known issues
>> and make printfile (pdf/x-3) out of it. Report your findings to the  
>> list
>> (stability of DTP program, is it an alternative to 2.1?)
>> 3.3) import ps/pdf-files into scribus and report known issues  
>> (labels and
>> outlines were not drawn in my case, import took very long)
>> 3.4) clearify colour profile issue with ps/pdf - is colour profile
>> mechanism needed for ps/pdf export
>> 3.5) alternatives to sk1/scribus for converting eps/ps to pdf/x-3  
>> etc.
>> ("professional printout file"): pdf-edit??? (silvio grosso, 15.10)
>> 3.6) alternatives to scribus/sk1 for final map layout:
>> 3.6.1) inkscape (but how to handle fact, that file can only be  
>> exported to
>> png-file), plus: svg seems not to be accepted in the professional  
>> world...
>> (Marcel, 15.10.)
>>     what about colour definition and svg?
>> 3.6.2) GIMP (but where to export to: ps, eps, ...)
>> 3.7) Test new symbology of coming gvSIG 2.0: which issues remain?  
>> Which can
>> be done even better (please keep on testing devel-version)
>> 3.8) check svg-import in software like scribus and export that to  
>> "known"
>> printout file (pdf). issues?
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