[SPAM]: Re: [Gvsig_english] gvSIG eclipse plugin

gvSIG Plugin Support gvplugin.support at gmail.com
Wed Jun 20 12:35:48 CEST 2007


Dear list and Dear gvSIG users,

Let's us to explain the business model:
1) We build a eclipse plugin
2) We DO NOT license it with ANY license
3) We make publicly and freely (here it means no money) available a demo to
test the product
4) We sell our work (exclusive ownership). I spoke from source code and
knowledge. Of course it makes no sense in this case to sell binaries
5) What the possible seller will do with is not my problem though I hope it
will open the source

So we don't break any chain, we don't build any dead end road and we are not
red and we don't have horns. We just want to sell a work that we think it's
useful for the gvSIG community to build more not-dead end roads ;)


About anonymous mail, sorry, we prefer to keep anonymous

best regards


2007/6/20, Simone Casciaroli <simone.casciaroli at gmail.com>:
>
> Do you know Exadel plugin for Eclipse, for many years (before the
> acquisition by RedHat)
> it had been Free but not Open Source, and there are a lot of other
> software that is free but not open source.
> It's strange that only this event create movement in international
> list, I think that it's better to speak about gvSIG functionalities
> than about a "simple" Eclipse plugin.
> If it's so interesting we can choice to create a team that develop a
> OpenSource version of the Plugin.
> This is the only problem of this business model. To propose a
> Commercial software in a OpenSource community, if the software is
> simple (I don't think is like IBM RAD :) it's possible to create an
> OpenSource alternatives without see the source code. The ideas aren't
> covered by copyright.
> Regards
>
> On 6/20/07, alvaro zabala <alvaro.zabala at juntadeandalucia.es> wrote:
> > Yes, free software is not equal to no money,
> > but free software is not free if it doesnt include the source code....so
> > Im not sure if you could release a demo of a  free and commertial
> > software without the source code (and obfuscating the binaries).
> >
> > Best regards!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > erwan bocher escribió:
> > >
> > > Asunto:
> > > Re: [Gvsig_english] gvSIG eclipse plugin
> > > De:
> > > "erwan bocher" <erwan.bocher at gmail.com>
> > > Fecha:
> > > Wed, 20 Jun 2007 09:15:23 +0200
> > > Para:
> > > "Users and Developers mailing list"
> > > <gvsig_internacional at runas.cap.gva.es>
> > >
> > > Para:
> > > "Users and Developers mailing list"
> > > <gvsig_internacional at runas.cap.gva.es>
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > What a pity this remark. Please don't forget free software doesn't
> > > equal no money. :-)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > R1.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Ingénieur de recherche
> > > Docteur en géographie,
> > > spécialité géomatique
> > > École Centrale de Nantes
> > > Institut de recherche en sciences et techniques de la ville
> > > http://www.irstv.cnrs.fr/
> > > http://geosysin.iict.ch/irstv-trac/wiki
> > > <http://geosysin.iict.ch/irstv-trac/wiki>
> > > http://r1.bocher.free.fr
> > > http://www.projet-sigle.org
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2007/6/19, Simone Casciaroli < simone.casciaroli at gmail.com
> > > <mailto:simone.casciaroli at gmail.com>>:
> > >
> > >     I partially disagree because I think that anyone can decide his
> > >     business model (also FOSS have one) but obviously it's not polite
> to
> > >     hide the identity under anonymous mailers, and especially in a
> > >     newsletter it's considered SPAM.
> > >     However I want to say that the plugin sound good and also SAAS
> > >     business model it's cool, I hope for a correction of this mistake
> that
> > >     I think is more related to inexperience than to impoliteness.
> > >     Good luck boys.
> > >
> > >     On 6/19/07, Francesc < fb.ricart at gmail.com
> > >     <mailto:fb.ricart at gmail.com>> wrote:
> > >     > I agree with Michael.
> > >     >
> > >     >
> > >     > Francesc
> > >     >
> > >     >
> > >     >
> > >     > 2007/6/19, michael gould <gould at lsi.uji.es
> > >     <mailto:gould at lsi.uji.es>>:
> > >     > >
> > >     > >
> > >     > >
> > >     > >
> > >     > > Breaking the free software chain (and also hiding behind
> > >     anonymous mailers
> > >     > and webs) is not in the spirit of the gvSIG project.  There are
> > >     other ways
> > >     > of trying to make money.
> > >     > >
> > >     > >
> > >     > >
> > >     > >
> > >     > >
> > >     > >
> > >     > > -------.
> > >     >
> > >     >
> > >     >
> > >     >
> > >     > >
> > >     > >
> > >     > >
> > >     > >
> > >     > >
> > >     > >
> > >     > > Michael Gould
> > >     > >
> > >     > > Centro de Visualización Interactiva  www.cevi.uji.es
> > >     <http://www.cevi.uji.es>
> > >     > >
> > >     > > Dept. Information Systems (LSI), Universitat Jaume I, 12071
> > >     Castellón,
> > >     > Spain
> > >     > >
> > >     > > email: gould (at) lsi.uji.es <http://lsi.uji.es>  //  email2:
> > >     mgould (at) opengeospatial.org <http://opengeospatial.org>
> > >     > >
> > >     > > research group   www.geoinfo.uji.es
> > >     <http://www.geoinfo.uji.es>  //  personal  www.mgould.com
> > >     <http://www.mgould.com>
> > >     > >
> > >     > > AGILE www.agile-online.org <http://www.agile-online.org>
> > >     > >
> > >     > > Vespucci Summer Institute www.vespucci.org
> > >     <http://www.vespucci.org>
> > >     > >
> > >     > > Erasmus Mundus: Master in Geospatial Technologies
> > >     www.mastergeotech.info <http://www.mastergeotech.info>
> > >     > >
> > >     > >
> > >     > >
> > >     > >
> > >     > >
> > >     > >
> > >     > >
> > >     > >
> > >     > >
> > >     > >
> > >     > >
> > >     > >
> > >     > >
> > >     > > ________________________________
> > >     >
> > >     > >
> > >     > > From: gvsig_internacional-bounces at runas.cap.gva.es
> > >     <mailto:gvsig_internacional-bounces at runas.cap.gva.es>
> > >     > [mailto: gvsig_internacional-bounces at runas.cap.gva.es
> > >     <mailto:gvsig_internacional-bounces at runas.cap.gva.es>] On
> > >     > Behalf Of gvSIG Plugin Support
> > >     > > Sent: martes, 19 de junio de 2007 19:22
> > >     > > To: gvsig_internacional at runas.cap.gva.es
> > >     <mailto:gvsig_internacional at runas.cap.gva.es>
> > >     > > Subject: [Gvsig_english] gvSIG eclipse plugin
> > >     > >
> > >     > >
> > >     > >
> > >     > >
> > >     > >
> > >     > >
> > >     > > I developed a plugin for eclipse to resolve the difficulties
> > >     of developing
> > >     > applications on top of gvsig. The work is published here:
> > >     > >
> > >     > >
> > >     > http://gvsig-plugin.enredados.eu:8080/gvplugin/gvPlugin.html
> > >     <http://gvsig-plugin.enredados.eu:8080/gvplugin/gvPlugin.html>
> > >     > >
> > >     > > It's not open source and it's free for few time. You can
> > >     access to the
> > >     > functionality with the following parameters:
> > >     > > user: gratis
> > >     > > password: gratis
> > >     > >
> > >     > > best regards
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> > >     > >
> > >     > >
> > >     >
> > >     >
> > >     >
> > >     > --
> > >     > Francesc
> > >     >
> > >     >
> > >     >
> > >     > ---Procureu enviar els correus massius amb les direccions en
> > >     còpia carbó
> > >     > oculta (cco) per, d'aquesta manera, no col·laborar amb qui les
> > >     col·lecciona
> > >     > per enviar SPAM---
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