[Gvsig_english] Free But Shackled - The Java Trap

[Jorge Sanz]

Wow, now I'm sure we have a community here, there is at least one troll!! (apart from me :P)

I couldn't resist posting that photograph I saw yesteryday in some blogs...
http://geomaticblog.net/files/images/howard-dean-arcgis.jpg

Mario, I think you should answer questions with better arguments to have a good debate.

Regards,
Jorge Gaspar Sanz Salinas 
Ingeniero en Geodesia y Cartografía 
Prodevelop S.L. - Valencia - España 
Tlf.:  96.351.06.12 - Fax:   96.351.09.68 
jsanz[en]prodevelop[punto]es 
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De: gvsig_internacional-bounces at runas.cap.gva.es en nombre de Mario Pisa
Enviado el: mié 20/06/2007 21:36
Para: Users and Developers mailing list
Asunto: Re: [Gvsig_english] Free But Shackled - The Java Trap
 
At this moment, gvSIG is not GNU.


On 6/20/07, Luis W. Sevilla <sevilla_lui at gva.es> wrote:
>
> Mario Pisa wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > In this old issue, Richard Stallman advise about warnings with Free
> > Software (Not Open Source) and Java, With the released OpenJDK, the
> > FSF congratulations to Sun for his decission, but he said "We must
> > learn a lesson from the history of Java, so we can avoid other traps
> > in the future.".
> >
> > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/java-trap.html
>
> April 2004 it's 3 years old, and obviously does not include the idea of
> suf releasing JVM under GPL license. I think using this essay today has
> no sense.
> a more recent one, about java and freeness, coming from FSF:
> https://www.fsf.org/news/fsf-welcomes-gpl-java.html
>
> > AFAIK, Sun licensed GPL for Java 5 and 6 (Mustang and Dolphin) and, in
> > other hand, libraries for images 2D are not GPL (for example JAI).
> >
> > at this moment, if my knowledge is current, can I declare what gvSIG
> > is free? (yes, it's Open. But is Free?)
>
> can you declare it? answer by yourself.
> and about the basis: capability to be free being written on java:
> http://directory.fsf.org/all/ant.html
> http://directory.fsf.org/all/eclipse.html
> http://directory.fsf.org/libs/java/HotSwap.html
> http://directory.fsf.org/all/IzPack.html
> and some dozens of proyects more, listed under FSF/UNESCO directory of
> free software.
>
> > with the only spirit to generate a cordial debate that enrich us to all,
>
> I see anything but search of empty dispute, sorry.
> anyway, my two cents.
> greetings
>     Luis
>
> >
> > Mario
> >
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