[Gvsig_english] Free But Shackled - The Java Trap

[Luis W. Sevilla]

so?
Mario Pisa wrote:

> Hi again,
>
> the only question follow unanswered, what's happen with JAI? is true
> what GPL is only for Java 5 and 6?
>
> for me, this is the only discussion. Luis, do you really think what
> you are discover a new world with your link?, your link was only to
> one click from my link, and I resume it how "the FSF congratulate to
> Sun for his decision", but you suppose what I didn't read it. This
> suppositions has no sense.
>
> The issue can to be old, but at this moment, can we declare what gvSIG
> don't fall in Java trap?
>
> http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-for-freedom.html
> <http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-for-freedom.html>
>
> greetings,
>
> Mario
>
> On 6/20/07, *Luis W. Sevilla* <sevilla_lui at gva.es
> <mailto:sevilla_lui at gva.es>> wrote:
>
>     Mario Pisa wrote:
>
>     > Hi,
>     >
>     > In this old issue, Richard Stallman advise about warnings with Free
>     > Software (Not Open Source) and Java, With the released OpenJDK, the
>     > FSF congratulations to Sun for his decission, but he said "We must
>     > learn a lesson from the history of Java, so we can avoid other traps
>     > in the future.".
>     >
>     > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/java-trap.html
>     <http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/java-trap.html>
>
>     April 2004 it's 3 years old, and obviously does not include the
>     idea of
>     suf releasing JVM under GPL license. I think using this essay
>     today has
>     no sense.
>     a more recent one, about java and freeness, coming from FSF:
>     https://www.fsf.org/news/fsf-welcomes-gpl-java.html
>
>     > AFAIK, Sun licensed GPL for Java 5 and 6 (Mustang and Dolphin)
>     and, in
>     > other hand, libraries for images 2D are not GPL (for example JAI).
>     >
>     > at this moment, if my knowledge is current, can I declare what gvSIG
>     > is free? (yes, it's Open. But is Free?)
>
>     can you declare it? answer by yourself.
>     and about the basis: capability to be free being written on java:
>     http://directory.fsf.org/all/ant.html
>     http://directory.fsf.org/all/eclipse.html
>     http://directory.fsf.org/libs/java/HotSwap.html
>     http://directory.fsf.org/all/IzPack.html
>     and some dozens of proyects more, listed under FSF/UNESCO
>     directory of
>     free software.
>
>     > with the only spirit to generate a cordial debate that enrich us
>     to all,
>
>     I see anything but search of empty dispute, sorry.
>     anyway, my two cents.
>     greetings
>         Luis
>
>     >
>     > Mario
>     >
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  Luis W. Sevilla
  Responsable de desarrollo gvSIG en la / gvSIG development Chief at
  Conselleria de Infraestructuras y Transporte
  Generalitat Valenciana
  Valencia - Spain
  http://www.gvsig.gva.es