[Gvsig_english] printing

Thu Oct 16 09:43:52 CEST 2008

Hi list,
... and a strange bug I just discovered:
after creating the layout, I go to export to ps / pdf. When selecting the name of the output file, the map (content of the view) is deleted from the layout! It's also in the command stack - therefore, I can undo that not-wanted step. But very strange!

I am using gvSIG 1.1.2 on a linux machine..

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-------- Original-Nachricht --------
> Datum: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 09:34:44 +0200
> Von: "Wolfgang Qual" <Wolfgang.Qual at gmx.net>
> An: Users and Developers mailing list <gvsig_internacional at runas.cap.gva.es>
> Betreff: Re: [Gvsig_english] printing

> Hi Marcel and all the others!
> First, I would like to thank you for this great discussion. Very
> interesting.
> We have different options to go 
> 
> 1) gvSIG to become an "eierlegende Wollmilchsau": gvSIG will be able to
> make everything, even creation of sophisticated pdf-x...-files
> 2) only enhance the export-function of gvSIG and use another open source
> program (must be open source, I think) for creating the layout and
> printfiles. These could be
> 2.1) export to imagefile (tiff) and do the rest in GIMP, scribus, sk1 or
> inkscape
> 2.2) export to eps (pdf, ps) and do the rest in GIMP, scribus, sk1 or
> inkscape
> 2.3) export to Vectorformat (svg) and do the rest in scribus, sk1 (?) and
> inkscape
> 3) do all layout work in gvSIG and export the final map into export format
> (like eps). Only use another program to create the final pdf or
> pdf/x-...-file.
> 
> José voted for a "single-piece" solution  (no. 1). I would also prefer
> this solution if possible. But it would be also ok (to my opinion) to use
> another software (nr. 3) to create the final printfile. But the layout should
> be done within gvSIG. The layout function is already quite cool and it
> should be possible to created here at least good-looking maps for office usage
> (print maps with your colour printer, plotter in all formats). I think most
> users need to have to possibility to create such maps quick and in a
> reliable way. Normally, you will not be willing tho redo the layout again in
> another app., or? One very important thing about gvSIG's layout function: it
> allows the user to create templates which again speed up the creation of
> maps.
> Therefore, the layout capabilities of gvSIG should be tested more and
> possible enhancements should be written to the list.
> 
> Of course, there are very nice layout and image manipulation programs out
> there in the Open Source universe. But do they solve our question *right
> now*?
> 
> * Inkscape is great when creating nice drawings in vector format. You can
> also impoort existing svg-files (for example, I read that it is possible to
> export a chart made in OOCalc to OODraw and export it as svg. Then import
> it in inkscape to create a really nice one). But I do not consider it as a
> program to create map-layouts. Scribus does not offer a possibility to
> create printfiles. I can save the drawing as svg or export it as png.
> SVG-export is (to my knowledge) already implemented in QGIS, but I think it is not
> finished yet. And Marcel said that you cannot use it for production useage?
> Why?
> 
> * Scribus is a very powerful tool for layout-tasks. It has the ability to
> apply colour management and all pre-press functionality. It offers you to
> create pdf/x-3-files which can be given to a professional printer. I use to
> create small printfiles (flyer), but did not test it for bigger project.
> Maybe someone else did this?
> Once I tried to get a ps- and pdf-output of gvSIG into scribus. But it
> took ages and (as written before) the quality of gvSIG's filebased output was
> not sufficient. Ok, the computer that was used for testing was not really
> powerful; but I do have doubts. We definitely need more testing. And user
> reports. AFAIK, prepress-functionality is also only availbale in the unstable
> scribus-ng.
> 
> * GIMP: also very powerful, but it is a program for image manipulation not
> for creating the layout. But I might be wrong. Maybe someone else did
> already mapwork there (Silvio?)
> 
> * SK1: I recently installed the available 0.9 version of sk1 on ubuntu.
> But as fas as I could see, scribus would be the better option (degree of
> development).
> 
> Hmmm. @Ben: what about that google-doc? Doable?
> 
> Best,
> Wolfgang
> 
> 
> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
> > Datum: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:19:21 -0400
> > Von: pvmstg <pvmstg at hotmail.com>
> > An: Users and Developers mailing list
> <gvsig_internacional at runas.cap.gva.es>
> > Betreff: [Gvsig_english] printing
> 
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > Sure to only have one source to do all is the easy way... But I agree  
> > about not redo the weel.  So... export the map in a way other program  
> > can manage... it's a way to let developpers concentrate on the gis  
> > base...  And exchanges can be done with the development team of these  
> > outsides programs to better integrate gv_sig with these softwares and  
> > vice-versa.
> > 
> > Just following some opensource projects and you see a lot of work...  
> > done and to be done.
> > 
> > I read about gimp for bitmap, inscape for vector... Maybe a layout  
> > program like scibus should be targeted... Export the map layout in  
> > gv_sig and only and other software... for layout the map. include more  
> > text, picture, vector data etc...  I wich I can export from gv_sig the  
> > symbo use in the map and do what I whan't with it (like in arcmap...  
> > convert to graphic and the you can change the label, size of picto etc  
> > to meet the index need).
> > 
> > About svg, I'm not an expert but in the realword, postscript, pdf/X  
> > are the standards to be able to send to prepress (mostly postcripts)  
> > if needed.  Svg  is great but... not for professionnal use for now.
> > 
> > One software not mention,, maybe because is only in development is  
> > "sk1" .  It's prepress oriented so I think it also could be a good  
> > way... to finish maps to go on prepress... (sK1 is an open source  
> > vector graphics editor similar to CorelDRAW, Adobe Illustrator, or  
> > Freehand. First of all sK1 is oriented for PostScript processing.)
> > 
> > For me scribus should be targeted since it's what we whant... make map  
> > for publishing and only a DPS is versatile enough for serious work.   
> > Color separation, color profile, cmyk, standard compliance are all  
> > required. But others should also be in the mind...
> > 
> > Marcel
> > 
> > 
> 
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