[Gvsig_english] printing

Thu Oct 16 12:11:28 CEST 2008

Hi Wolfgang,

There's a known bug about that, but I'm not sure if it's what you have 
done. If you have the view's frame  'selected' into your Map (layout), 
when 'Export to pdf/ps' interface is opened the keyboard 'acts' on it. 
It means that if your press i.e. Supr key or Move arrows while writing 
the pdf/ps name, the layout is going to be deleted or moved.

Regards,

Sergio

Wolfgang Qual escribió:
> Hi list,
> ... and a strange bug I just discovered:
> after creating the layout, I go to export to ps / pdf. When selecting the name of the output file, the map (content of the view) is deleted from the layout! It's also in the command stack - therefore, I can undo that not-wanted step. But very strange!
>
> I am using gvSIG 1.1.2 on a linux machine..
>
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>   
>> Datum: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 09:34:44 +0200
>> Von: "Wolfgang Qual" <Wolfgang.Qual at gmx.net>
>> An: Users and Developers mailing list <gvsig_internacional at runas.cap.gva.es>
>> Betreff: Re: [Gvsig_english] printing
>>     
>
>   
>> Hi Marcel and all the others!
>> First, I would like to thank you for this great discussion. Very
>> interesting.
>> We have different options to go 
>>
>> 1) gvSIG to become an "eierlegende Wollmilchsau": gvSIG will be able to
>> make everything, even creation of sophisticated pdf-x...-files
>> 2) only enhance the export-function of gvSIG and use another open source
>> program (must be open source, I think) for creating the layout and
>> printfiles. These could be
>> 2.1) export to imagefile (tiff) and do the rest in GIMP, scribus, sk1 or
>> inkscape
>> 2.2) export to eps (pdf, ps) and do the rest in GIMP, scribus, sk1 or
>> inkscape
>> 2.3) export to Vectorformat (svg) and do the rest in scribus, sk1 (?) and
>> inkscape
>> 3) do all layout work in gvSIG and export the final map into export format
>> (like eps). Only use another program to create the final pdf or
>> pdf/x-...-file.
>>
>> José voted for a "single-piece" solution  (no. 1). I would also prefer
>> this solution if possible. But it would be also ok (to my opinion) to use
>> another software (nr. 3) to create the final printfile. But the layout should
>> be done within gvSIG. The layout function is already quite cool and it
>> should be possible to created here at least good-looking maps for office usage
>> (print maps with your colour printer, plotter in all formats). I think most
>> users need to have to possibility to create such maps quick and in a
>> reliable way. Normally, you will not be willing tho redo the layout again in
>> another app., or? One very important thing about gvSIG's layout function: it
>> allows the user to create templates which again speed up the creation of
>> maps.
>> Therefore, the layout capabilities of gvSIG should be tested more and
>> possible enhancements should be written to the list.
>>
>> Of course, there are very nice layout and image manipulation programs out
>> there in the Open Source universe. But do they solve our question *right
>> now*?
>>
>> * Inkscape is great when creating nice drawings in vector format. You can
>> also impoort existing svg-files (for example, I read that it is possible to
>> export a chart made in OOCalc to OODraw and export it as svg. Then import
>> it in inkscape to create a really nice one). But I do not consider it as a
>> program to create map-layouts. Scribus does not offer a possibility to
>> create printfiles. I can save the drawing as svg or export it as png.
>> SVG-export is (to my knowledge) already implemented in QGIS, but I think it is not
>> finished yet. And Marcel said that you cannot use it for production useage?
>> Why?
>>
>> * Scribus is a very powerful tool for layout-tasks. It has the ability to
>> apply colour management and all pre-press functionality. It offers you to
>> create pdf/x-3-files which can be given to a professional printer. I use to
>> create small printfiles (flyer), but did not test it for bigger project.
>> Maybe someone else did this?
>> Once I tried to get a ps- and pdf-output of gvSIG into scribus. But it
>> took ages and (as written before) the quality of gvSIG's filebased output was
>> not sufficient. Ok, the computer that was used for testing was not really
>> powerful; but I do have doubts. We definitely need more testing. And user
>> reports. AFAIK, prepress-functionality is also only availbale in the unstable
>> scribus-ng.
>>
>> * GIMP: also very powerful, but it is a program for image manipulation not
>> for creating the layout. But I might be wrong. Maybe someone else did
>> already mapwork there (Silvio?)
>>
>> * SK1: I recently installed the available 0.9 version of sk1 on ubuntu.
>> But as fas as I could see, scribus would be the better option (degree of
>> development).
>>
>> Hmmm. @Ben: what about that google-doc? Doable?
>>
>> Best,
>> Wolfgang
>>
>>
>> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
>>     
>>> Datum: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:19:21 -0400
>>> Von: pvmstg <pvmstg at hotmail.com>
>>> An: Users and Developers mailing list
>>>       
>> <gvsig_internacional at runas.cap.gva.es>
>>     
>>> Betreff: [Gvsig_english] printing
>>>       
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Sure to only have one source to do all is the easy way... But I agree  
>>> about not redo the weel.  So... export the map in a way other program  
>>> can manage... it's a way to let developpers concentrate on the gis  
>>> base...  And exchanges can be done with the development team of these  
>>> outsides programs to better integrate gv_sig with these softwares and  
>>> vice-versa.
>>>
>>> Just following some opensource projects and you see a lot of work...  
>>> done and to be done.
>>>
>>> I read about gimp for bitmap, inscape for vector... Maybe a layout  
>>> program like scibus should be targeted... Export the map layout in  
>>> gv_sig and only and other software... for layout the map. include more  
>>> text, picture, vector data etc...  I wich I can export from gv_sig the  
>>> symbo use in the map and do what I whan't with it (like in arcmap...  
>>> convert to graphic and the you can change the label, size of picto etc  
>>> to meet the index need).
>>>
>>> About svg, I'm not an expert but in the realword, postscript, pdf/X  
>>> are the standards to be able to send to prepress (mostly postcripts)  
>>> if needed.  Svg  is great but... not for professionnal use for now.
>>>
>>> One software not mention,, maybe because is only in development is  
>>> "sk1" .  It's prepress oriented so I think it also could be a good  
>>> way... to finish maps to go on prepress... (sK1 is an open source  
>>> vector graphics editor similar to CorelDRAW, Adobe Illustrator, or  
>>> Freehand. First of all sK1 is oriented for PostScript processing.)
>>>
>>> For me scribus should be targeted since it's what we whant... make map  
>>> for publishing and only a DPS is versatile enough for serious work.   
>>> Color separation, color profile, cmyk, standard compliance are all  
>>> required. But others should also be in the mind...
>>>
>>> Marcel
>>>
>>>
>>>       
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