[Gvsig_english] gvSIG and Java on Mac OS X

Fri Oct 17 20:14:24 CEST 2008

Yeaps!!
I was out for the day, and you came out with a new versiom of gvSIG for Mac .
Congrats Ben and Mija. Those are really good news, however in some point along the
discussion Mija have stated something like "I will slip out of the gvSIG project", those
are TERRIBLE news. This will be a big lost for the project and big problem for Mac Users.
Mija we need you.
Agustin
PS I have found this port for soylatte in Mac
http://landonf.bikemonkey.org/static/soylatte/ 
http://web.mac.com/atellezf/alejandro/NetBeans/Entries/2007/12/27_SoyLatte_y_Glassfish.html

> 
> El 17/10/2008, a las 16:21, Benjamin Ducke escribió:
> 
> > OK, this all sounds promising and straight-forward.
> >
> > Indeed: the SoyLatte JRE runs on X11, so for anyone to use this  
> > version,
> > they have to:
> >
> > 1. Make sure X11 is installed
> 
> I seem to remember it was installed by default in OS X 10.4 (Tiger),  
> and maybe even without option in 10.5 (Leopard)
> 
> >
> > 2. Live with the fact that it looks like an X11 app (So what?)
> 
> You know, (we) mac people can sometimes be a bit obtuse ;). And the  
> difference is harder to notice if you come from other platforms.
> But I am sure there will be people willing to stand the ugliness /  
> lack of integration.
> 
> >
> >
> > I will "unbundle" things as you suggested. I will also give it some
> > more intensive testing. If that's useful for you as well: all the
> > better!
> >
> 
> I hope it will be useful for other mac users. So if I can help in any  
> way, please let me know.
> 
> 
> 
> > Is there a way for my shell script to know it's own location in the  
> > file
> > system, so it can figure out all needed paths?
> >
> 
> thisDir="${0%/*}"
> (I use that in (inner bundle).*/Contents/MacOS/preJava)
> Also, running a bundle is supposed to prepare a couple of variables  
> (mapped to environment variables?) pointing to the interesting dirs.  
> Try to dump them in the shell to look for them.
> 
> 
> > For this week, I will give it a rest and resume work on it on Monday.
> >
> > Thanks a lot again for all the help and have a nice weekend!
> >
> 
> Nice weekend!
> (please remember to test native libraries' functionality, like loading  
> a TIFF. And some screenshots would be very interesting - is it Aqua- 
> like or Metal-like?)
> 
> 
> > Ben
> >
> >
> >
> >> In the *.app/Contents/Info.plist you'll find an entry pointing to  
> >> the actual file to be executed (which is supposed to be inside  
> >> *.app/Contents/MacOS). And that file can be a shell script.
> >> Now, you don't need the complex bundle structure we have been using  
> >> for gvSIG <2. You only need the inner *.app bundle; the "outer" one  
> >> is only to check for and install JAI-ImageIO if needed. Which is  
> >> not your case because you already put it into SoyLatte.
> >> (gvSIG 2 will also do without the outer bundle, since we have  
> >> learnt that JAI-ImageIO causes Firefox and Opera to die when  
> >> loading Java applets, and so we don't install it system-wide but  
> >> use it as an extra .jar in the classpath)
> >> (remember to take out the jai-imageio.jar from your ~/Library/Java/ 
> >> Extensions !)
> >> A hopefully minor problem will be that you won't be able to "osx- 
> >> ize" the user experience as much as with the Apple-provided  
> >> JavaStub. Expect problems with the app icon and name while running,  
> >> for example. (or maybe SoyLatte has already been prepared for  
> >> that?...). I think you could overcome that by creating your own  
> >> substitute of the JavaStub, with a little Cocoa program which would  
> >> present itself as gvSIG to the OS and start an embedded JVM which  
> >> would run the actual program....
> >> Also, can you confirm that the native functionalities (like loading  
> >> a TIFF) do work?
> >> I think we could polish a bit the whole thing and prepare it so  
> >> different versions of gvSIG can be dropped-in, if you agree.
> >> Cheers!
> >>> Thanks much for your help, Mijail!
> >>>
> >>> Ben
> >>>
> >>> P.S.: Yes, I copied the JAI I/O which the gvSIG installer put into
> >>> ~/Library/Java/Extensions ...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Mijail wrote:
> >>>> Maybe good news: the log you sent now says this:
> >>>> " La máquina virtual con la que se ejecuta gvSIG no tiene JAI  
> >>>> instalado"
> >>>> Which is spanish for "JAI is not installed in the VM executing  
> >>>> gvSIG". (I guess that should be localized or translated! :P)
> >>>> Also, in this log the JCRS error looks directly related to JAI:
> >>>> ERROR [AWT-EventQueue-1] (?:?) - Cannot locate extension  
> >>>> classorg.gvsig.crs.JCrsExtension
> >>>> java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: javax/media/jai/EnumeratedParameter
> >>>> Problem is, ... where to get JAI for SoyLatte?
> >>>> If it is not available as opensourced, my first idea is to try  
> >>>> the JAI installed in OS X's Java, which you will find in /System/ 
> >>>> Library/Java/Extensions/ . (I hope Apple didn't do anything  
> >>>> unholy to them)
> >>>> Or maybe the .jar's (that is, the non-native parts) of the JAI  
> >>>> distribution for Linux or Windows.
> >>>> (and while we're at it, which JAI-ImageIO did you use? the one  
> >>>> included with gvSIG, I hope...).
> >>>> El 17/10/2008, a las 14:24, Benjamin Ducke escribió:
> >>>>> La máquina virtual con la que se ejecuta gvSIG no tiene JAI  
> >>>>> instalado
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