[Gvsig_english] v1.9 alpha on Ubuntu 8.10

Squidjag colin.east at geospatial-ict.com.au
Sun Feb 15 13:24:57 CET 2009


I have turned off the visual effects (right click the desktop and select
preferences. Visual effects tab and select the 'none' radio button) :-)
java -version on the command line returns:
The program 'java' can be found in the following packages:
 * java-gcj-compat-headless
 * cacao-oj6-jre-headless
 * gij-4.2
 * kaffe
 * cacao
 * openjdk-6-jre-headless
 * jamvm
 * gij-4.3
 * sablevm

I also tried this:
colin at mullaway:~$ '/home/colin/gvsig-oade-1.0.1/jre/bin/java' -version
java version "1.6.0_07"
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_07-b06)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 10.0-b23, mixed mode, sharing)

Does this help?

Cheers

Colin


Chris Puttick wrote:
> 
> Interesting - Java performance on 8.10 tested as significantly faster in
> nearly every way (see Phoronix). Do you know what Java stack you are
> running on the Ubuntu box? And do you have desktop effects turned on? If
> so, turn them off as they are likely to impact redraw without some
> tweaking of the Java stack. Last issue that might impact is your graphics
> card and driver. What chipset is it, and if Nvidia or ATI, are you using
> the restricted driver or not? Which is faster for that kind of redraw I'm
> not sure, but it would be worth testing either.
> 
> Chris
> 
> ----- "Squidjag" <colin.east at geospatial-ict.com.au> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Chris,
>> 
>> I used the term performance is two ways. The first relates to
>> rendering and
>> you are right about the hardware. I have a line feature with 375,000
>> lines
>> that renders in about 6 seconds (with a spatial index) using the
>> Celeron box
>> running Ubuntu 8.10 and OA 1.1.2. Same file and software on the
>> Pentium dual
>> renders in about 2 seconds using Ubuntu 8.04 and with win NT using
>> gvSIG 1.1
>> the line feature also renders in about 2 seconds. I'd suggested this
>> is to
>> be expected.
>> 
>> However, the second way I used the term performances relates the
>> usability.
>> Using the Celeron box with Ubuntu 8.10 and OA 1.1.2 is quite slow. By
>> this I
>> mean when I click a button there is a delay. If I drag a window is
>> takes up
>> to 3 seconds to redraw. All the basic features I used take more than
>> a
>> second to complete. This is not the case with the 8.04 version and
>> seems to
>> be limited to 8.10.
>> 
>> Unfortunately, I cannot put 8.04 on the Celeron box as I can't get it
>> to
>> work properly with the graphics card and my 22" monitor.
>> 
>> Sorry if my mixed use of the term performance has cause confusion.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> Colin
>> 
>> 
>> Chris Puttick wrote:
>> > 
>> > I'd say the Celeron v. the dual pentium is going to make all the
>> > performance difference you could want. Can you dual boot the big box
>> with
>> > Ubuntu? I'd generally assume performance on identical hardware to
>> be
>> > considerably faster in Linux.
>> > 
>> > ----- "Squidjag" <colin.east at geospatial-ict.com.au> wrote:
>> > 
>> >> Hi Ben,
>> >> 
>> >> I can! Some context; I'm going to use gvSIG to teach post graduate
>> >> management students spatial concepts. I'm a geospatial consultant
>> >> (part time
>> >> teacher) and use XP as my primary operating system. I've decided
>> that
>> >> I will
>> >> not upgrade to Vista and am therefore looking at Ubuntu. gvSIG 1.1
>> is
>> >> excellent and I will be using it for my course (probably OA
>> actually)
>> >> but it
>> >> is not clear to me about a couple of spatial relations I want to
>> teach
>> >> so I
>> >> wanted to take a squizz (peak) at 1.9alpha. I came across OA when
>> >> looking to
>> >> fix my other problems.
>> >> 
>> >> Anyway, I'm running gvSIG1.1 on a Windows box (pentium dual 1.8
>> ghz
>> >> processor, 2 gig of ram) and  Unbuntu 8.10 on an older box
>> (Celeron
>> >> 2.8 ghz
>> >> with 1.5 gig of ram). I must say that the best thing is the OA
>> >> installer for
>> >> Lynux. For a windows pleb like me it is the same as an MSI
>> installer
>> >> and
>> >> makes life so much easy. :-)
>> >> 
>> >> Bearing in mind I've only clicked a few buttons so far, the two
>> >> systems
>> >> seems to be functional the same. The only difference I've seen so
>> far
>> >> is the
>> >> 'i' icon on the information button is missing the 'i' in the
>> Ubuntu
>> >> box. I
>> >> even have a shape file that will not display attributes and it is
>> the
>> >> same
>> >> in both systems (it doesn't have a projection file so that may be
>> the
>> >> cause???).
>> >> 
>> >> There is however a performance difference. A polygon shape file
>> with
>> >> around
>> >> 850,000 features take 12 seconds to render in windows and 18 or so
>> >> seconds
>> >> to render in the 8.10 box. The variables are: a newer processor on
>> >> the
>> >> windows box, gvSIG on windows compared to OA on 8.10, and possibly
>> the
>> >> the
>> >> java settings (I chose the standard 512 memory allocation on
>> install).
>> >> The
>> >> other performance thing is that actions are slow in 8.10. For
>> example.
>> >> If I
>> >> use a box select, I can drag a box around my selection and a second
>> or
>> >> so
>> >> passes before the box is drawn. I can click on a window and drag
>> it
>> >> and
>> >> again it takes a second or so before the window is moved. I am
>> using a
>> >> 22"
>> >> screen running at 1680x1050 and thought it might be graphics
>> drivers
>> >> but
>> >> other application windows have no lag. Not sure if this is a 8.10
>> >> issue,
>> >> Java, or there are some performance tweaks I should compare??
>> >> 
>> >> Happy to compare some other features of interest but will share
>> >> comparisons
>> >> of the things I'm using in my course.
>> >> Cheers
>> >> Colin
>> >> 
>> >> Benjamin Ducke wrote:
>> >> > 
>> >> > Please let us know how the OA version works for you on Ubuntu!
>> >> > 
>> >> > Cheers,
>> >> > 
>> >> > Ben
>> >> > 
>> >> > Squidjag wrote:
>> >> >> Hi Jean,
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> Apologies for taking so long to respond. I don't know what I
>> did
>> >> wrong
>> >> >> but
>> >> >> my install ended up the wrong directory and only sudo would run
>> it
>> >> (it
>> >> >> was
>> >> >> owned by root). I had another issue and chose to go back to
>> 8.04.
>> >> Long
>> >> >> story
>> >> >> cut short, I'm trying the OA version 1.1.2 with 8.10 (after a
>> >> couple of
>> >> >> rebuilds). I will try 1.9alpha after I have learned some more
>> >> about
>> >> >> Lynux. I
>> >> >> intend to give it a shot in a Virtual Machine running Windows.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> Thank you, and to Marcus too, for your assistance.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> Cheers
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> Colin
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> jean hemmi wrote:
>> >> >>> Hi Colin,
>> >> >>> Following Marcus, you have to install in your homedir.
>> >> >>> After, simplest (than managing AWT_TOOLKIT) is to turn off the
>> >> visuals
>> >> >>> effects in "system=>pref=>apparence" 
>> >> >>> gvSIG is running without any problem.
>> >> >>> For the icon, you can create yours, pointing on
>> >> >>> home/xx/gvSIG_1.9/bin/gvSIG.sh
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> - Jean (running gvsig 1.9alpha on ubuntu 8.10)
>> >> >>>
>> >> >> 
>> >> > 
>> >> > 
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>> >> > 
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>> >> > 
>> >> > 
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