[Gvsig_english] v1.9 alpha on Ubuntu 8.10

Sun Feb 15 13:38:29 CET 2009

And the effects were turned off before the tests? Odd. Beyond me then :)

Chris

----- "Squidjag" <colin.east at geospatial-ict.com.au> wrote:

> I have turned off the visual effects (right click the desktop and
> select
> preferences. Visual effects tab and select the 'none' radio button)
> :-)
> java -version on the command line returns:
> The program 'java' can be found in the following packages:
>  * java-gcj-compat-headless
>  * cacao-oj6-jre-headless
>  * gij-4.2
>  * kaffe
>  * cacao
>  * openjdk-6-jre-headless
>  * jamvm
>  * gij-4.3
>  * sablevm
> 
> I also tried this:
> colin at mullaway:~$ '/home/colin/gvsig-oade-1.0.1/jre/bin/java'
> -version
> java version "1.6.0_07"
> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_07-b06)
> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 10.0-b23, mixed mode, sharing)
> 
> Does this help?
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Colin
> 
> 
> Chris Puttick wrote:
> > 
> > Interesting - Java performance on 8.10 tested as significantly
> faster in
> > nearly every way (see Phoronix). Do you know what Java stack you
> are
> > running on the Ubuntu box? And do you have desktop effects turned
> on? If
> > so, turn them off as they are likely to impact redraw without some
> > tweaking of the Java stack. Last issue that might impact is your
> graphics
> > card and driver. What chipset is it, and if Nvidia or ATI, are you
> using
> > the restricted driver or not? Which is faster for that kind of
> redraw I'm
> > not sure, but it would be worth testing either.
> > 
> > Chris
> > 
> > ----- "Squidjag" <colin.east at geospatial-ict.com.au> wrote:
> > 
> >> Hi Chris,
> >> 
> >> I used the term performance is two ways. The first relates to
> >> rendering and
> >> you are right about the hardware. I have a line feature with
> 375,000
> >> lines
> >> that renders in about 6 seconds (with a spatial index) using the
> >> Celeron box
> >> running Ubuntu 8.10 and OA 1.1.2. Same file and software on the
> >> Pentium dual
> >> renders in about 2 seconds using Ubuntu 8.04 and with win NT using
> >> gvSIG 1.1
> >> the line feature also renders in about 2 seconds. I'd suggested
> this
> >> is to
> >> be expected.
> >> 
> >> However, the second way I used the term performances relates the
> >> usability.
> >> Using the Celeron box with Ubuntu 8.10 and OA 1.1.2 is quite slow.
> By
> >> this I
> >> mean when I click a button there is a delay. If I drag a window is
> >> takes up
> >> to 3 seconds to redraw. All the basic features I used take more
> than
> >> a
> >> second to complete. This is not the case with the 8.04 version and
> >> seems to
> >> be limited to 8.10.
> >> 
> >> Unfortunately, I cannot put 8.04 on the Celeron box as I can't get
> it
> >> to
> >> work properly with the graphics card and my 22" monitor.
> >> 
> >> Sorry if my mixed use of the term performance has cause confusion.
> >> 
> >> Cheers
> >> 
> >> Colin
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Chris Puttick wrote:
> >> > 
> >> > I'd say the Celeron v. the dual pentium is going to make all the
> >> > performance difference you could want. Can you dual boot the big
> box
> >> with
> >> > Ubuntu? I'd generally assume performance on identical hardware
> to
> >> be
> >> > considerably faster in Linux.
> >> > 
> >> > ----- "Squidjag" <colin.east at geospatial-ict.com.au> wrote:
> >> > 
> >> >> Hi Ben,
> >> >> 
> >> >> I can! Some context; I'm going to use gvSIG to teach post
> graduate
> >> >> management students spatial concepts. I'm a geospatial
> consultant
> >> >> (part time
> >> >> teacher) and use XP as my primary operating system. I've
> decided
> >> that
> >> >> I will
> >> >> not upgrade to Vista and am therefore looking at Ubuntu. gvSIG
> 1.1
> >> is
> >> >> excellent and I will be using it for my course (probably OA
> >> actually)
> >> >> but it
> >> >> is not clear to me about a couple of spatial relations I want
> to
> >> teach
> >> >> so I
> >> >> wanted to take a squizz (peak) at 1.9alpha. I came across OA
> when
> >> >> looking to
> >> >> fix my other problems.
> >> >> 
> >> >> Anyway, I'm running gvSIG1.1 on a Windows box (pentium dual 1.8
> >> ghz
> >> >> processor, 2 gig of ram) and  Unbuntu 8.10 on an older box
> >> (Celeron
> >> >> 2.8 ghz
> >> >> with 1.5 gig of ram). I must say that the best thing is the OA
> >> >> installer for
> >> >> Lynux. For a windows pleb like me it is the same as an MSI
> >> installer
> >> >> and
> >> >> makes life so much easy. :-)
> >> >> 
> >> >> Bearing in mind I've only clicked a few buttons so far, the two
> >> >> systems
> >> >> seems to be functional the same. The only difference I've seen
> so
> >> far
> >> >> is the
> >> >> 'i' icon on the information button is missing the 'i' in the
> >> Ubuntu
> >> >> box. I
> >> >> even have a shape file that will not display attributes and it
> is
> >> the
> >> >> same
> >> >> in both systems (it doesn't have a projection file so that may
> be
> >> the
> >> >> cause???).
> >> >> 
> >> >> There is however a performance difference. A polygon shape file
> >> with
> >> >> around
> >> >> 850,000 features take 12 seconds to render in windows and 18 or
> so
> >> >> seconds
> >> >> to render in the 8.10 box. The variables are: a newer processor
> on
> >> >> the
> >> >> windows box, gvSIG on windows compared to OA on 8.10, and
> possibly
> >> the
> >> >> the
> >> >> java settings (I chose the standard 512 memory allocation on
> >> install).
> >> >> The
> >> >> other performance thing is that actions are slow in 8.10. For
> >> example.
> >> >> If I
> >> >> use a box select, I can drag a box around my selection and a
> second
> >> or
> >> >> so
> >> >> passes before the box is drawn. I can click on a window and
> drag
> >> it
> >> >> and
> >> >> again it takes a second or so before the window is moved. I am
> >> using a
> >> >> 22"
> >> >> screen running at 1680x1050 and thought it might be graphics
> >> drivers
> >> >> but
> >> >> other application windows have no lag. Not sure if this is a
> 8.10
> >> >> issue,
> >> >> Java, or there are some performance tweaks I should compare??
> >> >> 
> >> >> Happy to compare some other features of interest but will share
> >> >> comparisons
> >> >> of the things I'm using in my course.
> >> >> Cheers
> >> >> Colin
> >> >> 
> >> >> Benjamin Ducke wrote:
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > Please let us know how the OA version works for you on
> Ubuntu!
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > Cheers,
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > Ben
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > Squidjag wrote:
> >> >> >> Hi Jean,
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> Apologies for taking so long to respond. I don't know what I
> >> did
> >> >> wrong
> >> >> >> but
> >> >> >> my install ended up the wrong directory and only sudo would
> run
> >> it
> >> >> (it
> >> >> >> was
> >> >> >> owned by root). I had another issue and chose to go back to
> >> 8.04.
> >> >> Long
> >> >> >> story
> >> >> >> cut short, I'm trying the OA version 1.1.2 with 8.10 (after
> a
> >> >> couple of
> >> >> >> rebuilds). I will try 1.9alpha after I have learned some
> more
> >> >> about
> >> >> >> Lynux. I
> >> >> >> intend to give it a shot in a Virtual Machine running
> Windows.
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> Thank you, and to Marcus too, for your assistance.
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> Cheers
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> Colin
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> jean hemmi wrote:
> >> >> >>> Hi Colin,
> >> >> >>> Following Marcus, you have to install in your homedir.
> >> >> >>> After, simplest (than managing AWT_TOOLKIT) is to turn off
> the
> >> >> visuals
> >> >> >>> effects in "system=>pref=>apparence" 
> >> >> >>> gvSIG is running without any problem.
> >> >> >>> For the icon, you can create yours, pointing on
> >> >> >>> home/xx/gvSIG_1.9/bin/gvSIG.sh
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> - Jean (running gvsig 1.9alpha on ubuntu 8.10)
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > -- 
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> >> >> > 
> >> >> > 
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