[Gvsig_english] gv_sig and future on mac os

[Benjamin Ducke]

> By secure Ben I refer to programm using api compatible with mac,
> outside java. Qt by nokia now, if i'm not mistaken, do so. Udig,
> Qgis ... use this path. So... crossplatform in development but native
> in the build.

UDig is based on Eclipse, which is Java technology.
QGIS will run into trouble the moment Apple decides that C++ and
the GNU C compiler are also not good enough anymore.

> 
> Gv_Sig is the most interesting opensource gis program I see. Ease of
> passing from esri to gv_siv, full features. But, without full support
> for osX, if java finaly, that what I beleive, can't work in a mac in a
> not so far future. Make it less attractive.

Unless the OpenJDK project totally fails (which I do not believe),
there will be a way to run Java application on Mac OS X 10.7 and above.

> 
> Sure, you can move to linux but, for macuser, you go on program
> working on mac not moving of mac to use a software.
> 

Strange, I would argue exactly the other way around: if you spend
most of your time working with a particular application, then how
important is it, really, which OS you use to click on the icon
and start that application?

Ben

> And Cropper, virtualisation can be a temporary solution but not the
> way to go.
> 
> Maccel
> 
> 
> Le 10-10-22 à 02:28, Benjamin Ducke a écrit :
> 
> >
> >> now at least, for me the user choose the os... for me is osX. So
> >> it's unfortunate, for me but I will have the choice of playing
> >> "roulette russe" with gv_sig or going to a more secure gis.
> >
> > Or to actively promote and support gvSIG on Mac OS X to make sure
> > that it lives
> > on and prospers. That's how open source software works.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Ben
> >
> >>
> >> Maccel
> >> Le 10-10-21 à 18:04, Simon Cropper a écrit :
> >>
> >>> Hi All,
> >>>
> >>> On Friday 22 October 2010 2:23:16 am Chris Puttick wrote:
> >>>> what then?
> >>>
> >>> My son has been using a iMac for several years and resisted moving
> >>> away from
> >>> the computer and its operating system for all the wrong reasons
> >>> (i.e. vendor
> >>> lock in with iPhone, iTunes, etc).
> >>>
> >>> Recently he moved away from his iPhone and now only use iTunes and
> >>> comparable music related products.
> >>>
> >>> Faced with an operating system that only allowed Apple products
> >>> and one that
> >>> in recent times is just getting slower and slower (a bit like
> >>> windows XP and
> >>> Vista was doing a year or so back), I convinced him to move to
> >>> Ubuntu (well he
> >>> really convinced himself as I have been nagging him for sometime.
> >>> The pivotal
> >>> point was when he saw me log on and open a program on my machine
> >>> in seconds
> >>> compared to minutes on his).
> >>>
> >>> After backing up his system (2-3 hours), it took less than one
> >>> hour to set up
> >>> the base system in Ubuntu. He is enjoying the OS, the 'free'
> >>> software and
> >>> lightning fast OS (at least compared to OS-X).
> >>>
> >>> Where to from here? Move your iMac to Ubuntu. You won't be sorry.
> >>>
> >>> I know it sound drastic but it really isn't.
> >>>
> >>> P.S. It's funny how things are not apparent until they hit you in
> >>> the face. My
> >>> son, while looking at the various movies he had downloaded to
> >>> iTunes, asked me
> >>> how he could view these files as they were in a proprietary format
> >>> that could
> >>> only be read by Apple software. He was livid that he could not
> >>> view these files
> >>> using other software as he had paid good money for these movies.
> >>> After a bit
> >>> of searching we were able to find a conversion routine written in
> >>> Open Source
> >>> that could convert the apple movie format to a more commonly
> >>> encountered and
> >>> used format.
> >>>
> >>> -- Cheers Simon
> >>>
> >>> Simon Cropper
> >>> Botanicus Australia Pty Ltd
> >>> PO Box 160 Sunshine 3020
> >>> P: 03 9311 5822. M: 041 830 3437
> >>> W: http://www.botanicusaustralia.com.au
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