[Gvsig_english] gv_sig and future on mac os

[Agustin Diez Castillo]

On Oct 22, 2010, at 1:56 PM, gmail wrote:

> Hi, I think I'm starting fire.  That's was not my intend.  Since i'm  
> not bilingual, my english is less thant good.
> 
> I just whant to point, for other macuser, de danger of the java path  
> on the mac, no more, no less.
I guess if Apple choose to move away from Java, Flash or other things now; they are choosing to move away from some users as well. 
> 
> By secure Ben I refer to programm using api compatible with mac,  
> outside java.  Qt by nokia now, if i'm not mistaken, do so.  Udig,  
> Qgis ... use this path.  So... crossplatform in development but native  
> in the build.
> 
> Gv_Sig is the most interesting opensource gis program I see.  Ease of  
> passing from esri to gv_siv, full features.  But, without full support  
> for osX, if java finaly, that what I beleive, can't work in a mac in a  
> not so far future.  Make it less attractive.
To date, if think gvSIG is the best option for mac users even if GRASS is best supported. If in the future Apple will close its MacOS, like they do with iOS, to third parties the only choice will be to use to use other OSes. In the meanwhile, I will keep pushing for official support of gvSIG to mac users.
> 
> Sure, you can move to linux but, for macuser, you go on program  
> working on mac not moving of mac to use a software.
gvSIG (OADE or 3D) works good enough in mac. I know of some windows users that move to mac and they are more than happy with the gvSIG performance.
> 
> And Cropper, virtualisation can be a temporary solution but not the  
> way to go.
You can use macboot, as well, and you mac hardware will be a linux machine.
> 
> Maccel
> 
> 
> Le 10-10-22 à 02:28, Benjamin Ducke a écrit :
> 
>> 
>>> now at least, for me the user choose the os... for me is osX. So it's
>>> unfortunate, for me but I will have the choice of playing "roulette
>>> russe" with gv_sig or going to a more secure gis.
>> 
>> Or to actively promote and support gvSIG on Mac OS X to make sure  
>> that it lives
>> on and prospers. That's how open source software works.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Ben
>> 
>>> 
>>> Maccel
>>> Le 10-10-21 à 18:04, Simon Cropper a écrit :
>>> 
>>>> Hi All,
>>>> 
>>>> On Friday 22 October 2010 2:23:16 am Chris Puttick wrote:
>>>>> what then?
>>>> 
>>>> My son has been using a iMac for several years and resisted moving
>>>> away from
>>>> the computer and its operating system for all the wrong reasons
>>>> (i.e. vendor
>>>> lock in with iPhone, iTunes, etc).
>>>> 
>>>> Recently he moved away from his iPhone and now only use iTunes and
>>>> comparable
>>>> music related products.
>>>> 
>>>> Faced with an operating system that only allowed Apple products and
>>>> one that
>>>> in recent times is just getting slower and slower (a bit like
>>>> windows XP and
>>>> Vista was doing a year or so back), I convinced him to move to
>>>> Ubuntu (well he
>>>> really convinced himself as I have been nagging him for sometime.
>>>> The pivotal
>>>> point was when he saw me log on and open a program on my machine in
>>>> seconds
>>>> compared to minutes on his).
>>>> 
>>>> After backing up his system (2-3 hours), it took less than one hour
>>>> to set up
>>>> the base system in Ubuntu. He is enjoying the OS, the 'free'
>>>> software and
>>>> lightning fast OS (at least compared to OS-X).
>>>> 
>>>> Where to from here? Move your iMac to Ubuntu. You won't be sorry.
>>>> 
>>>> I know it sound drastic but it really isn't.
>>>> 
>>>> P.S. It's funny how things are not apparent until they hit you in
>>>> the face. My
>>>> son, while looking at the various movies he had downloaded to
>>>> iTunes, asked me
>>>> how he could view these files as they were in a proprietary format
>>>> that could
>>>> only be read by Apple software. He was livid that he could not view
>>>> these files
>>>> using other software as he had paid good money for these movies.
>>>> After a bit
>>>> of searching we were able to find a conversion routine written in
>>>> Open Source
>>>> that could convert the apple movie format to a more commonly
>>>> encountered and
>>>> used format.
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Cheers Simon
>>>> 
>>>> Simon Cropper
>>>> Botanicus Australia Pty Ltd
>>>> PO Box 160 Sunshine 3020
>>>> P: 03 9311 5822. M: 041 830 3437
>>>> W: http://www.botanicusaustralia.com.au
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