[Gvsig_english] 3D Extension. CALL FOR TESTING

Mon Jan 10 13:40:06 CET 2011

And now terribly off-topic, but Linux appears to be dropping X, moving to Wayland instead - and at the moment NVidia are saying they will not support Wayland... ATI 3D works fairly well, even with open source drivers, so long as you pick your chipset carefully.

----- Original Message -----
> Hi Nicklas,
> 
> most Linuxers prefer NVIDIA chipsets, because that
> company keeps its drivers for Linux in sync with
> Windows and Mac OS X, and thus they tend to work better.
> 
> Also the open source drivers for NVIDIA seem to be
> better than those for ATI hardware. But that can all
> change soon. There is a lot going on with the ATI
> open source drivers at the moment, and ATI is getting
> better at providing open source programmers with
> documentation.
> 
> Having said that, I am running Catalyst 10.11 on an
> HD4200 chipset and it's working great (apart from
> minor issues with Compiz and fullscreen windows).
> 
> I really suggest you browse phoronix.com and the forums
> if you are interested in getting more out of your ATI
> card under Linux.
> 
> Ben
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> > Hallo Ben
> >
> > Yes, I installed the AMD-drive when I was doing my best tryings some
> > week ago. Before that I have avoided it because, just as you say it
> > can give very strange behavior. One of my first Ubuntu-installations
> > endede in a black screen and re installation because of compiz-ATI
> > problem. I
> > spent many hours at that time trying to understand what to do, but
> > it ended with re installation.
> >
> > What graphic cards is working best with linux? Will the open source
> > driver to ATI get better or is there issues stoping the development
> > like lack of information about architecture?
> >
> > /Nicklas
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 12:14 +0000, Benjamin Ducke wrote:
> > > Hi Nicklas,
> > >
> > > ATI 3D support under Linux is a long and difficult story...
> > > The only sure thing is that the open source drivers only support
> > > old OpenGL API versions and do not have complete enough 3D
> > > support for most newer chipsets yet.
> > >
> > > Personally, I use AMD's latest Catalyst driver from their website
> > > in Ubuntu 10.04 and that works fairly well. But you will have to
> > > be careful when installing it in order not to break your Ubuntu
> > > package management and X11 system updates.
> > >
> > > The site phoronix.com has regular coverage of ATI drivers on Linux
> > > and a very useful forum where these things are discussed in
> > > detail.
> > >
> > > Also, do yourself the favour and disable any 3D desktop effects.
> > > The interaction of the ATI drivers and Compiz can be problematic.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > Ben
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > Hallo
> > > >
> > > > Actually I started trying some the last week without knowing it
> > > > was that new :-)
> > > >
> > > > What I have tried is against PostGIS in an attempt to visualize
> > > > the new polyhedral surface and 3D distance functions in the
> > > > trunk comming in PostGIS 2.0.
> > > >
> > > > In Ubuntu gvSIG crashes when I have the extension installed. I
> > > > translated some spanish post with google on the subject and I
> > > > guess it
> > > > is a problem with my ATI-card. The symptoms looked very similar.
> > > > Is there a solution for that?
> > > >
> > > > In windows I had some other trouble. When I had defined and
> > > > opened a 3D view I could open a PostGIS table, but I didn't get
> > > > the third
> > > > dimmension. Properties said that it was a 2d polygon. I guess
> > > > that can be a JDBC-problem. But I don't know enough about that
> > > > to say
> > > > anything.
> > > >
> > > > Another problem on windows was that when I had loaded my postgis
> > > > table the cpu went wild. some java-process took all recourses.
> > > >
> > > > All this was maybe a week ago.
> > > >
> > > > But I saw the idea, and it looked great :-)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > Nicklas Avén
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 12:02 +0100, Jordi Torres wrote:
> > > > > Hi gvSIG users!
> > > > >
> > > > > As many of you already know, the gvSIG 3D team is working hard
> > > > > to get a final version of the 3D extension. During christmas
> > > > > hollydays a beta
> > > > > version have been released. After this version we will create
> > > > > consecutives RC (release candidates) fixing the bugs detected
> > > > > to arrive to the final release.
> > > > >
> > > > > We are specially interested in the community testing and
> > > > > feedback, because the proper functioning of this extension
> > > > > depends on the
> > > > > hardware and drivers used. Our target is to detect the maximum
> > > > > number of bugs, and which configurations are working well/bad
> > > > > to fix these problems in the RC1 version.
> > > > >
> > > > > We recommend to take a look to the minimum requirements[1]
> > > > > before to
> > > > > install the 3D extension[2], and do it in a separate gvSIG
> > > > > 1.10 final installation. All your comments, suggestions and
> > > > > bug reports are wellcome. You can write to gvSIG distribution
> > > > > lists or to the
> > > > > gvSIG 3D
> > > > > blog[3], where you can find videotutorials and use examples.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you very much in advance!
> > > > >
> > > > > [1]https://gvsig.org/web/projects/gvsig-desktop/official/gvsig-1.10/extensiones-gvsig-1.10/extension-3d/system-requirements/view?set_language=en
> > > > > [2]https://gvsig.org/web/projects/gvsig-desktop/official/gvsig-1.10/extensiones-gvsig-1.10/extension-3d/downloads
> > > > > [3]http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -- Jordi Torres Fabra --
> > > > >
> > > > > gvSIG 3D blog
> > > > > http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com Instituto de Automática e
> > > > > Informática Industrial
> > > > > http://www.ai2.upv.es
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