[Gvsig_english] 3D Extension. CALL FOR TESTING

Thu Jan 13 13:56:34 CET 2011

Jordi,

Please wait at least until the end of this month with RC1 if you
can. The beginning of the year is usually a very busy period, and
people might simply not have had the time to test and report
back yet (including me).

Ben

----- Original Message -----
> HI NIcklas,
> 
> Did you finally saw a 3D view? Can you tell us how the performance was
> with your fglrx drivers?
> 
> We are a bit desencouraged about the call for testing, because nobody
> said directly that the test was succesful.
> If any other on the list have tested 3D with or without success,
> please answer to this thread, is the way to fix the problems or to see
> some feedback from the community. If no body reports major problems we
> will go for RC1 next weeks.
> 
> Your screenshots are wellcome!
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> 
> 
> 2011/1/10 Jordi Torres < jtorresfabra at gmail.com >
> 
> 
> Hi Nicklas,
> 
> Great to hear this!! You are the first which have working 3D extension
> in linux and fglrx driver!! Feel free to send a patch and become a
> contributor to gvSIG 3D. Here you have the instructions[1]. If you
> don't have enough time I will do the job for the next release (RC1)
> and you will be a contributor anyway :) .
> 
> About PostGIS in the gvSIG code sprint[2] many bugs were fixes. Maybe
> you can use a translator, the web is in spanish. Anyway other people
> in the community can speak about postGis better than me... Hope they
> read this thread.
> 
> We are a bit curious about performance with fglrx drivers. How it
> goes? Letter 's' toggles the statistics in a 3D view.
> 
> Cheers, and good work!
> 
> [1]
> https://gvsig.org/web/projects/gvsig-desktop/docs/devel/gvsig-devel-guide/2.0.0/anexos/contribuciones-y-parches-al-codigo-de-gvsig/contributions-and-patches-to-the-gvsig-code/view?set_language=en
> [2] http://www.doowikis.com/m/Jy3H1rZ7AP
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 2011/1/10 Nicklas Avén < nicklas.aven at jordogskog.no >
> 
> 
> Hallo again
> 
> I had it working. First I tried:
> 
> pathtoGL=$(find /usr/lib/fglrx -iname libGL.so.1);
> 
> then it found libGL.so.1 but couldn't load it.
> 
> But when I changed to
> 
> pathtoGL=$(find /usr/lib32/fglrx -iname libGL.so.1);
> 
> it works.
> 
> Now it is just that issue that I don't get the Z-values from PostGIS.
> 
> Is that patch available? Is it difficult to compile. As I understood
> it the bug is not in the 3D-extension but in the desktop application?
> 
> Then I found another issue:
> At least in the 3D-extension, I haven't tried the 2D view, If I load a
> PostGIS table that table gets locked. Even after I have deleted it
> from the view I can't drop it in PostGIS.
> 
> There must be some sort of locking left also efter removing the table
> from gvSIG.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Nicklas
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 14:09 +0100, Jordi Torres wrote:
> > Hi Nicklas,
> >
> > I think you will have to convert your polyhedralsurfaces to
> > polygons, but you can test anyway...
> >
> > I am waiting eagerly for this screenshots!!
> >
> > Cheers.
> >
> > 2011/1/10 Nicklas Avén < nicklas.aven at jordogskog.no >
> > Great!
> >
> > Thanks both of you.
> >
> > I will get back with some nice screenshots of ST_3DShortesline
> > on polyhedralsurfaces when I get some extra time and things are
> > running.
> >
> >
> > BTW, will the 3D extension understand the geometry type
> > polyhedralsurface or do I have to use ST_Dump to get a bunch
> > of 3D
> > polygons instead?
> >
> >
> > Thanks again
> >
> > Nicklas
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 13:37 +0100, Jordi Torres wrote:
> > > Hi Nicklas,
> > >
> > > With no doubt the best cards to use with linux are NVIDIA
> > one's. Their
> > > private drivers runs like a charm in linux machines. And
> > they are a
> > > couple of steps advanced with respect to ATI, at least in
> > linux...
> > >
> > > The problem you are experiencing is that gvSIG 3D can't find
> > your
> > > libGL.so.1 implementation (usually in /usr/lib/ ). It has
> > been fixed
> > > for Mesa drivers, but not for ATI private drivers. You can
> > take a look
> > > in the script gvSIG.sh to see what we do with mesa drivers
> > and try to
> > > do something similar. Or you can, of course, wait for RC1
> > version.
> > >
> > > As ben recommended, take a look to phoronix, and compare
> > chipsets and
> > > drivers.... :)
> > >
> > > Cheers.
> > >
> > > 2011/1/10 Nicklas Avén < nicklas.aven at jordogskog.no >
> > > Here it comes :-)
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 13:27 +0100, Jordi Torres
> > wrote:
> > > > Hi Nicklas,
> > > >
> > > > Can you send the
> > > > file
> > /home/nicklas/gvSIG_1.10/bin/hs_err_pid6059.log ? This
> > > file
> > > > contains the log for the native crash.
> > > >
> > > > As Benjamin said, ATI 3D support in linux have
> > been
> > > problematic for a
> > > > long time. Anyway we know we have a problem with
> > ati cards
> > > in linux
> > > > and private drivers. We will do our best to fix it
> > for RC1
> > > version.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2011/1/10 Nicklas Avén
> > < nicklas.aven at jordogskog.no >
> > > > I have had some problems seeing the
> > beginning of the
> > > startup
> > > > of gcSIG
> > > > since it was too long to be scrollable in
> > the
> > > terminal. But
> > > > now I
> > > > outputted it to file and I am not sure it
> > is about
> > > the video
> > > > card.
> > > >
> > > > I attach both glxint and the output of the
> > gvSIG
> > > start that
> > > > ends with a
> > > > crash
> > > >
> > > > When I installed I tried to just follow
> > the
> > > instructions which
> > > > resulted
> > > > in two folders in my home directory:
> > > > gvSIG and gvSIG_1.10
> > > >
> > > > to start I have to manually kick on script
> > gvSIG-sh
> > > in
> > > > bin-directory under gvSIG_1.10
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Nicklas
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > here comes glxinfo output as attachment.
> > > >
> > > > My system is Ubuntu 10.4 64 bit
> > > >
> > > > I have had some problems getting the error
> > text. I
> > > cannot find
> > > > it in ant
> > > > log and the text is so long so the start
> > with the
> > > actual
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 12:58 +0100, Jordi
> > Torres
> > > wrote:
> > > > > Hi Nicklas,
> > > > >
> > > > > About PostGis tables giving 2D
> > geometries is a bug
> > > that have
> > > > been
> > > > > tracked and a fixed[1]. The fix (a patch
> > submitted
> > > by Jose
> > > > Carlos
> > > > > Martínez from UPV) are not in the svn
> > yet, is
> > > waiting to be
> > > > assigned
> > > > > and merged. We hope it will be merged
> > for gvSIG
> > > 1.11
> > > > release.
> > > > >
> > > > > With respect to your ATI card: are you
> > using
> > > driver Mesa or
> > > > fglrx? Can
> > > > > you send to the list a glxinfo output
> > please?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for test the 3D extension!
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers.
> > > > >
> > > > > 2011/1/10 Nicklas Avén
> > > < nicklas.aven at jordogskog.no >
> > > > > Hallo
> > > > >
> > > > > Actually I started trying some
> > the last
> > > week without
> > > > knowing
> > > > > it was that
> > > > > new :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > What I have tried is against
> > PostGIS in an
> > > attempt
> > > > to
> > > > > visualize the new
> > > > > polyhedral surface and 3D
> > distance
> > > functions in the
> > > > trunk
> > > > > comming in
> > > > > PostGIS 2.0.
> > > > >
> > > > > In Ubuntu gvSIG crashes when I
> > have the
> > > extension
> > > > installed. I
> > > > > translated some spanish post
> > with google
> > > on the
> > > > subject and I
> > > > > guess it
> > > > > is a problem with my ATI-card.
> > The
> > > symptoms looked
> > > > very
> > > > > similar. Is
> > > > > there a solution for that?
> > > > >
> > > > > In windows I had some other
> > trouble. When
> > > I had
> > > > defined and
> > > > > opened a 3D
> > > > > view I could open a PostGIS
> > table, but I
> > > didn't get
> > > > the third
> > > > > dimmension. Properties said that
> > it was a
> > > 2d
> > > > polygon. I guess
> > > > > that can
> > > > > be a JDBC-problem. But I don't
> > know enough
> > > about
> > > > that to say
> > > > > anything.
> > > > >
> > > > > Another problem on windows was
> > that when I
> > > had
> > > > loaded my
> > > > > postgis table
> > > > > the cpu went wild. some
> > java-process took
> > > all
> > > > recourses.
> > > > >
> > > > > All this was maybe a week ago.
> > > > >
> > > > > But I saw the idea, and it
> > looked
> > > great :-)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards
> > > > > Nicklas Avén
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 12:02
> > +0100, Jordi
> > > Torres
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Hi gvSIG users!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As many of you already know,
> > the gvSIG
> > > 3D team is
> > > > working
> > > > > hard to get
> > > > > > a final version of the 3D
> > extension.
> > > During
> > > > christmas
> > > > > hollydays a beta
> > > > > > version have been released.
> > After this
> > > version we
> > > > will
> > > > > create
> > > > > > consecutives RC (release
> > candidates)
> > > fixing the
> > > > bugs
> > > > > detected to
> > > > > > arrive to the final release.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We are specially interested in
> > the
> > > community
> > > > testing and
> > > > > feedback,
> > > > > > because the proper functioning
> > of this
> > > extension
> > > > depends on
> > > > > the
> > > > > > hardware and drivers used. Our
> > target is
> > > to detect
> > > > the
> > > > > maximum number
> > > > > > of bugs, and which
> > configurations are
> > > working
> > > > well/bad to
> > > > > fix these
> > > > > > problems in the RC1 version.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We recommend to take a look to
> > the
> > > minimum
> > > > requirements[1]
> > > > > before to
> > > > > > install the 3D extension[2],
> > and do it
> > > in a
> > > > separate gvSIG
> > > > > 1.10 final
> > > > > > installation. All your
> > comments,
> > > suggestions and
> > > > bug reports
> > > > > are
> > > > > > wellcome. You can write to
> > gvSIG
> > > distribution
> > > > lists or to
> > > > > the gvSIG 3D
> > > > > > blog[3], where you can find
> > > videotutorials and use
> > > > examples.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you very much in
> > advance!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > [1]
> > https://gvsig.org/web/projects/gvsig-desktop/official/gvsig-1.10/extensiones-gvsig-1.10/extension-3d/system-requirements/view?set_language=en
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > [2]
> > https://gvsig.org/web/projects/gvsig-desktop/official/gvsig-1.10/extensiones-gvsig-1.10/extension-3d/downloads
> > > > > > [3] http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -- Jordi Torres Fabra --
> > > > > >
> > > > > > gvSIG 3D blog
> > > > > > http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com Instituto de Automática e
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