[Gvsig_english] 3D Extension. CALL FOR TESTING

Thu Jan 13 13:58:31 CET 2011

Hi Ben,

He He, We have scheduled it for the 1st of February, so, don't worry!

Thank you!

2011/1/13 Benjamin Ducke <benjamin.ducke at oxfordarch.co.uk>

> Jordi,
>
> Please wait at least until the end of this month with RC1 if you
> can. The beginning of the year is usually a very busy period, and
> people might simply not have had the time to test and report
> back yet (including me).
>
> Ben
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > HI NIcklas,
> >
> > Did you finally saw a 3D view? Can you tell us how the performance was
> > with your fglrx drivers?
> >
> > We are a bit desencouraged about the call for testing, because nobody
> > said directly that the test was succesful.
> > If any other on the list have tested 3D with or without success,
> > please answer to this thread, is the way to fix the problems or to see
> > some feedback from the community. If no body reports major problems we
> > will go for RC1 next weeks.
> >
> > Your screenshots are wellcome!
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> >
> >
> > 2011/1/10 Jordi Torres < jtorresfabra at gmail.com >
> >
> >
> > Hi Nicklas,
> >
> > Great to hear this!! You are the first which have working 3D extension
> > in linux and fglrx driver!! Feel free to send a patch and become a
> > contributor to gvSIG 3D. Here you have the instructions[1]. If you
> > don't have enough time I will do the job for the next release (RC1)
> > and you will be a contributor anyway :) .
> >
> > About PostGIS in the gvSIG code sprint[2] many bugs were fixes. Maybe
> > you can use a translator, the web is in spanish. Anyway other people
> > in the community can speak about postGis better than me... Hope they
> > read this thread.
> >
> > We are a bit curious about performance with fglrx drivers. How it
> > goes? Letter 's' toggles the statistics in a 3D view.
> >
> > Cheers, and good work!
> >
> > [1]
> >
> https://gvsig.org/web/projects/gvsig-desktop/docs/devel/gvsig-devel-guide/2.0.0/anexos/contribuciones-y-parches-al-codigo-de-gvsig/contributions-and-patches-to-the-gvsig-code/view?set_language=en
> > [2] http://www.doowikis.com/m/Jy3H1rZ7AP
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 2011/1/10 Nicklas Avén < nicklas.aven at jordogskog.no >
> >
> >
> > Hallo again
> >
> > I had it working. First I tried:
> >
> > pathtoGL=$(find /usr/lib/fglrx -iname libGL.so.1);
> >
> > then it found libGL.so.1 but couldn't load it.
> >
> > But when I changed to
> >
> > pathtoGL=$(find /usr/lib32/fglrx -iname libGL.so.1);
> >
> > it works.
> >
> > Now it is just that issue that I don't get the Z-values from PostGIS.
> >
> > Is that patch available? Is it difficult to compile. As I understood
> > it the bug is not in the 3D-extension but in the desktop application?
> >
> > Then I found another issue:
> > At least in the 3D-extension, I haven't tried the 2D view, If I load a
> > PostGIS table that table gets locked. Even after I have deleted it
> > from the view I can't drop it in PostGIS.
> >
> > There must be some sort of locking left also efter removing the table
> > from gvSIG.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Nicklas
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 14:09 +0100, Jordi Torres wrote:
> > > Hi Nicklas,
> > >
> > > I think you will have to convert your polyhedralsurfaces to
> > > polygons, but you can test anyway...
> > >
> > > I am waiting eagerly for this screenshots!!
> > >
> > > Cheers.
> > >
> > > 2011/1/10 Nicklas Avén < nicklas.aven at jordogskog.no >
> > > Great!
> > >
> > > Thanks both of you.
> > >
> > > I will get back with some nice screenshots of ST_3DShortesline
> > > on polyhedralsurfaces when I get some extra time and things are
> > > running.
> > >
> > >
> > > BTW, will the 3D extension understand the geometry type
> > > polyhedralsurface or do I have to use ST_Dump to get a bunch
> > > of 3D
> > > polygons instead?
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks again
> > >
> > > Nicklas
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 13:37 +0100, Jordi Torres wrote:
> > > > Hi Nicklas,
> > > >
> > > > With no doubt the best cards to use with linux are NVIDIA
> > > one's. Their
> > > > private drivers runs like a charm in linux machines. And
> > > they are a
> > > > couple of steps advanced with respect to ATI, at least in
> > > linux...
> > > >
> > > > The problem you are experiencing is that gvSIG 3D can't find
> > > your
> > > > libGL.so.1 implementation (usually in /usr/lib/ ). It has
> > > been fixed
> > > > for Mesa drivers, but not for ATI private drivers. You can
> > > take a look
> > > > in the script gvSIG.sh to see what we do with mesa drivers
> > > and try to
> > > > do something similar. Or you can, of course, wait for RC1
> > > version.
> > > >
> > > > As ben recommended, take a look to phoronix, and compare
> > > chipsets and
> > > > drivers.... :)
> > > >
> > > > Cheers.
> > > >
> > > > 2011/1/10 Nicklas Avén < nicklas.aven at jordogskog.no >
> > > > Here it comes :-)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 13:27 +0100, Jordi Torres
> > > wrote:
> > > > > Hi Nicklas,
> > > > >
> > > > > Can you send the
> > > > > file
> > > /home/nicklas/gvSIG_1.10/bin/hs_err_pid6059.log ? This
> > > > file
> > > > > contains the log for the native crash.
> > > > >
> > > > > As Benjamin said, ATI 3D support in linux have
> > > been
> > > > problematic for a
> > > > > long time. Anyway we know we have a problem with
> > > ati cards
> > > > in linux
> > > > > and private drivers. We will do our best to fix it
> > > for RC1
> > > > version.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 2011/1/10 Nicklas Avén
> > > < nicklas.aven at jordogskog.no >
> > > > > I have had some problems seeing the
> > > beginning of the
> > > > startup
> > > > > of gcSIG
> > > > > since it was too long to be scrollable in
> > > the
> > > > terminal. But
> > > > > now I
> > > > > outputted it to file and I am not sure it
> > > is about
> > > > the video
> > > > > card.
> > > > >
> > > > > I attach both glxint and the output of the
> > > gvSIG
> > > > start that
> > > > > ends with a
> > > > > crash
> > > > >
> > > > > When I installed I tried to just follow
> > > the
> > > > instructions which
> > > > > resulted
> > > > > in two folders in my home directory:
> > > > > gvSIG and gvSIG_1.10
> > > > >
> > > > > to start I have to manually kick on script
> > > gvSIG-sh
> > > > in
> > > > > bin-directory under gvSIG_1.10
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > Nicklas
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > here comes glxinfo output as attachment.
> > > > >
> > > > > My system is Ubuntu 10.4 64 bit
> > > > >
> > > > > I have had some problems getting the error
> > > text. I
> > > > cannot find
> > > > > it in ant
> > > > > log and the text is so long so the start
> > > with the
> > > > actual
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 12:58 +0100, Jordi
> > > Torres
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Hi Nicklas,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > About PostGis tables giving 2D
> > > geometries is a bug
> > > > that have
> > > > > been
> > > > > > tracked and a fixed[1]. The fix (a patch
> > > submitted
> > > > by Jose
> > > > > Carlos
> > > > > > Martínez from UPV) are not in the svn
> > > yet, is
> > > > waiting to be
> > > > > assigned
> > > > > > and merged. We hope it will be merged
> > > for gvSIG
> > > > 1.11
> > > > > release.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > With respect to your ATI card: are you
> > > using
> > > > driver Mesa or
> > > > > fglrx? Can
> > > > > > you send to the list a glxinfo output
> > > please?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for test the 3D extension!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2011/1/10 Nicklas Avén
> > > > < nicklas.aven at jordogskog.no >
> > > > > > Hallo
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Actually I started trying some
> > > the last
> > > > week without
> > > > > knowing
> > > > > > it was that
> > > > > > new :-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What I have tried is against
> > > PostGIS in an
> > > > attempt
> > > > > to
> > > > > > visualize the new
> > > > > > polyhedral surface and 3D
> > > distance
> > > > functions in the
> > > > > trunk
> > > > > > comming in
> > > > > > PostGIS 2.0.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In Ubuntu gvSIG crashes when I
> > > have the
> > > > extension
> > > > > installed. I
> > > > > > translated some spanish post
> > > with google
> > > > on the
> > > > > subject and I
> > > > > > guess it
> > > > > > is a problem with my ATI-card.
> > > The
> > > > symptoms looked
> > > > > very
> > > > > > similar. Is
> > > > > > there a solution for that?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In windows I had some other
> > > trouble. When
> > > > I had
> > > > > defined and
> > > > > > opened a 3D
> > > > > > view I could open a PostGIS
> > > table, but I
> > > > didn't get
> > > > > the third
> > > > > > dimmension. Properties said that
> > > it was a
> > > > 2d
> > > > > polygon. I guess
> > > > > > that can
> > > > > > be a JDBC-problem. But I don't
> > > know enough
> > > > about
> > > > > that to say
> > > > > > anything.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Another problem on windows was
> > > that when I
> > > > had
> > > > > loaded my
> > > > > > postgis table
> > > > > > the cpu went wild. some
> > > java-process took
> > > > all
> > > > > recourses.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > All this was maybe a week ago.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But I saw the idea, and it
> > > looked
> > > > great :-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > Nicklas Avén
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 12:02
> > > +0100, Jordi
> > > > Torres
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi gvSIG users!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As many of you already know,
> > > the gvSIG
> > > > 3D team is
> > > > > working
> > > > > > hard to get
> > > > > > > a final version of the 3D
> > > extension.
> > > > During
> > > > > christmas
> > > > > > hollydays a beta
> > > > > > > version have been released.
> > > After this
> > > > version we
> > > > > will
> > > > > > create
> > > > > > > consecutives RC (release
> > > candidates)
> > > > fixing the
> > > > > bugs
> > > > > > detected to
> > > > > > > arrive to the final release.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We are specially interested in
> > > the
> > > > community
> > > > > testing and
> > > > > > feedback,
> > > > > > > because the proper functioning
> > > of this
> > > > extension
> > > > > depends on
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > hardware and drivers used. Our
> > > target is
> > > > to detect
> > > > > the
> > > > > > maximum number
> > > > > > > of bugs, and which
> > > configurations are
> > > > working
> > > > > well/bad to
> > > > > > fix these
> > > > > > > problems in the RC1 version.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We recommend to take a look to
> > > the
> > > > minimum
> > > > > requirements[1]
> > > > > > before to
> > > > > > > install the 3D extension[2],
> > > and do it
> > > > in a
> > > > > separate gvSIG
> > > > > > 1.10 final
> > > > > > > installation. All your
> > > comments,
> > > > suggestions and
> > > > > bug reports
> > > > > > are
> > > > > > > wellcome. You can write to
> > > gvSIG
> > > > distribution
> > > > > lists or to
> > > > > > the gvSIG 3D
> > > > > > > blog[3], where you can find
> > > > videotutorials and use
> > > > > examples.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thank you very much in
> > > advance!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > [1]
> > >
> https://gvsig.org/web/projects/gvsig-desktop/official/gvsig-1.10/extensiones-gvsig-1.10/extension-3d/system-requirements/view?set_language=en
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > [2]
> > >
> https://gvsig.org/web/projects/gvsig-desktop/official/gvsig-1.10/extensiones-gvsig-1.10/extension-3d/downloads
> > > > > > > [3] http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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> > > > > > >
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