[Gvsig_english] 3D Extension. CALL FOR TESTING
Nicklas Avén
nicklas.aven at jordogskog.no
Thu Jan 13 14:12:29 CET 2011
Hallo
I have not had the patched binaries so I have not been able to test with
PostGIS in 3D.
Since that is my main goal I haven't tried to create anything in any
other format to test.
So what I have tested is to open a 3D view and open a PostGIS table that
shows only in 2D.
It seed to work, but I am a little afraid that something takes a lot of
cpu because I thought I noticed some strange behavior like some small
freezings in display and sound. But it should be investigated more to
say, closing down other programs and so on.
I also noted that the postgis driver seemed to lock the postgis table
even after I had removed it from my gvSIG project. I had to close gvSIG
to handle the table from pgAdmin.
But it would be very nice to try the patched binaries to see how things
works with all three dimensions involved.
Regards
Nicklas
On Thu, 2011-01-13 at 13:50 +0100, Jordi Torres wrote:
> HI NIcklas,
>
> Did you finally saw a 3D view? Can you tell us how the performance was
> with your fglrx drivers?
>
> We are a bit desencouraged about the call for testing, because nobody
> said directly that the test was succesful.
> If any other on the list have tested 3D with or without success,
> please answer to this thread, is the way to fix the problems or to see
> some feedback from the community. If no body reports major problems we
> will go for RC1 next weeks.
>
> Your screenshots are wellcome!
>
> Cheers!
>
>
> 2011/1/10 Jordi Torres <jtorresfabra at gmail.com>
> Hi Nicklas,
>
> Great to hear this!! You are the first which have working 3D
> extension in linux and fglrx driver!! Feel free to send a
> patch and become a contributor to gvSIG 3D. Here you have the
> instructions[1]. If you don't have enough time I will do the
> job for the next release (RC1) and you will be a contributor
> anyway :) .
>
> About PostGIS in the gvSIG code sprint[2] many bugs were
> fixes. Maybe you can use a translator, the web is in spanish.
> Anyway other people in the community can speak about postGis
> better than me... Hope they read this thread.
>
> We are a bit curious about performance with fglrx drivers. How
> it goes? Letter 's' toggles the statistics in a 3D view.
>
> Cheers, and good work!
>
> [1]https://gvsig.org/web/projects/gvsig-desktop/docs/devel/gvsig-devel-guide/2.0.0/anexos/contribuciones-y-parches-al-codigo-de-gvsig/contributions-and-patches-to-the-gvsig-code/view?set_language=en
> [2]http://www.doowikis.com/m/Jy3H1rZ7AP
>
>
>
> 2011/1/10 Nicklas Avén <nicklas.aven at jordogskog.no>
> Hallo again
>
> I had it working. First I tried:
>
> pathtoGL=$(find /usr/lib/fglrx -iname libGL.so.1);
>
> then it found libGL.so.1 but couldn't load it.
>
> But when I changed to
>
> pathtoGL=$(find /usr/lib32/fglrx -iname libGL.so.1);
>
> it works.
>
> Now it is just that issue that I don't get the
> Z-values from PostGIS.
>
> Is that patch available? Is it difficult to compile.
> As I understood it
> the bug is not in the 3D-extension but in the desktop
> application?
>
> Then I found another issue:
> At least in the 3D-extension, I haven't tried the 2D
> view, If I load a
> PostGIS table that table gets locked. Even after I
> have deleted it from
> the view I can't drop it in PostGIS.
>
> There must be some sort of locking left also efter
> removing the table
> from gvSIG.
>
> Regards
>
> Nicklas
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 14:09 +0100, Jordi Torres wrote:
> > Hi Nicklas,
> >
> > I think you will have to convert your
> polyhedralsurfaces to polygons,
> > but you can test anyway...
> >
> > I am waiting eagerly for this screenshots!!
> >
> > Cheers.
> >
> > 2011/1/10 Nicklas Avén <nicklas.aven at jordogskog.no>
> > Great!
> >
> > Thanks both of you.
> >
> > I will get back with some nice screenshots
> of ST_3DShortesline
> > on
> > polyhedralsurfaces when I get some extra
> time and things are
> > running.
> >
> >
> > BTW, will the 3D extension understand the
> geometry type
> > polyhedralsurface or do I have to use
> ST_Dump to get a bunch
> > of 3D
> > polygons instead?
> >
> >
> > Thanks again
> >
> > Nicklas
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 13:37 +0100, Jordi
> Torres wrote:
> > > Hi Nicklas,
> > >
> > > With no doubt the best cards to use with
> linux are NVIDIA
> > one's. Their
> > > private drivers runs like a charm in linux
> machines. And
> > they are a
> > > couple of steps advanced with respect to
> ATI, at least in
> > linux...
> > >
> > > The problem you are experiencing is that
> gvSIG 3D can't find
> > your
> > > libGL.so.1 implementation (usually
> in /usr/lib/ ). It has
> > been fixed
> > > for Mesa drivers, but not for ATI private
> drivers. You can
> > take a look
> > > in the script gvSIG.sh to see what we do
> with mesa drivers
> > and try to
> > > do something similar. Or you can, of
> course, wait for RC1
> > version.
> > >
> > > As ben recommended, take a look to
> phoronix, and compare
> > chipsets and
> > > drivers.... :)
> > >
> > > Cheers.
> > >
> > > 2011/1/10 Nicklas Avén
> <nicklas.aven at jordogskog.no>
> > > Here it comes :-)
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 13:27 +0100,
> Jordi Torres
> > wrote:
> > > > Hi Nicklas,
> > > >
> > > > Can you send the
> > > > file
> >
> /home/nicklas/gvSIG_1.10/bin/hs_err_pid6059.log ?
> This
> > > file
> > > > contains the log for the native
> crash.
> > > >
> > > > As Benjamin said, ATI 3D support
> in linux have
> > been
> > > problematic for a
> > > > long time. Anyway we know we
> have a problem with
> > ati cards
> > > in linux
> > > > and private drivers. We will do
> our best to fix it
> > for RC1
> > > version.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2011/1/10 Nicklas Avén
> > <nicklas.aven at jordogskog.no>
> > > > I have had some problems
> seeing the
> > beginning of the
> > > startup
> > > > of gcSIG
> > > > since it was too long to
> be scrollable in
> > the
> > > terminal. But
> > > > now I
> > > > outputted it to file and
> I am not sure it
> > is about
> > > the video
> > > > card.
> > > >
> > > > I attach both glxint and
> the output of the
> > gvSIG
> > > start that
> > > > ends with a
> > > > crash
> > > >
> > > > When I installed I tried
> to just follow
> > the
> > > instructions which
> > > > resulted
> > > > in two folders in my
> home directory:
> > > > gvSIG and gvSIG_1.10
> > > >
> > > > to start I have to
> manually kick on script
> > gvSIG-sh
> > > in
> > > > bin-directory
> > > > under gvSIG_1.10
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Nicklas
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > here comes glxinfo
> output as attachment.
> > > >
> > > > My system is Ubuntu 10.4
> 64 bit
> > > >
> > > > I have had some problems
> getting the error
> > text. I
> > > cannot find
> > > > it in ant
> > > > log and the text is so
> long so the start
> > with the
> > > actual
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 2011-01-10 at
> 12:58 +0100, Jordi
> > Torres
> > > wrote:
> > > > > Hi Nicklas,
> > > > >
> > > > > About PostGis tables
> giving 2D
> > geometries is a bug
> > > that have
> > > > been
> > > > > tracked and a
> fixed[1]. The fix (a patch
> > submitted
> > > by Jose
> > > > Carlos
> > > > > Martínez from UPV) are
> not in the svn
> > yet, is
> > > waiting to be
> > > > assigned
> > > > > and merged. We hope it
> will be merged
> > for gvSIG
> > > 1.11
> > > > release.
> > > > >
> > > > > With respect to your
> ATI card: are you
> > using
> > > driver Mesa or
> > > > fglrx? Can
> > > > > you send to the list a
> glxinfo output
> > please?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for test the 3D
> extension!
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers.
> > > > >
> > > > > 2011/1/10 Nicklas Avén
> > > <nicklas.aven at jordogskog.no>
> > > > > Hallo
> > > > >
> > > > > Actually I
> started trying some
> > the last
> > > week without
> > > > knowing
> > > > > it was that
> > > > > new :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > What I have
> tried is against
> > PostGIS in an
> > > attempt
> > > > to
> > > > > visualize the
> new
> > > > > polyhedral
> surface and 3D
> > distance
> > > functions in the
> > > > trunk
> > > > > comming in
> > > > > PostGIS 2.0.
> > > > >
> > > > > In Ubuntu
> gvSIG crashes when I
> > have the
> > > extension
> > > > installed. I
> > > > > translated
> some spanish post
> > with google
> > > on the
> > > > subject and I
> > > > > guess it
> > > > > is a problem
> with my ATI-card.
> > The
> > > symptoms looked
> > > > very
> > > > > similar. Is
> > > > > there a
> solution for that?
> > > > >
> > > > > In windows I
> had some other
> > trouble. When
> > > I had
> > > > defined and
> > > > > opened a 3D
> > > > > view I could
> open a PostGIS
> > table, but I
> > > didn't get
> > > > the third
> > > > > dimmension.
> Properties said that
> > it was a
> > > 2d
> > > > polygon. I guess
> > > > > that can
> > > > > be a
> JDBC-problem. But I don't
> > know enough
> > > about
> > > > that to say
> > > > > anything.
> > > > >
> > > > > Another
> problem on windows was
> > that when I
> > > had
> > > > loaded my
> > > > > postgis table
> > > > > the cpu went
> wild. some
> > java-process took
> > > all
> > > > recourses.
> > > > >
> > > > > All this was
> maybe a week ago.
> > > > >
> > > > > But I saw the
> idea, and it
> > looked
> > > great :-)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards
> > > > > Nicklas Avén
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon,
> 2011-01-10 at 12:02
> > +0100, Jordi
> > > Torres
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Hi gvSIG
> users!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As many of
> you already know,
> > the gvSIG
> > > 3D team is
> > > > working
> > > > > hard to get
> > > > > > a final
> version of the 3D
> > extension.
> > > During
> > > > christmas
> > > > > hollydays a
> beta
> > > > > > version have
> been released.
> > After this
> > > version we
> > > > will
> > > > > create
> > > > > > consecutives
> RC (release
> > candidates)
> > > fixing the
> > > > bugs
> > > > > detected to
> > > > > > arrive to
> the final release.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We are
> specially interested in
> > the
> > > community
> > > > testing and
> > > > > feedback,
> > > > > > because the
> proper functioning
> > of this
> > > extension
> > > > depends on
> > > > > the
> > > > > > hardware and
> drivers used. Our
> > target is
> > > to detect
> > > > the
> > > > > maximum number
> > > > > > of bugs, and
> which
> > configurations are
> > > working
> > > > well/bad to
> > > > > fix these
> > > > > > problems in
> the RC1 version.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We recommend
> to take a look to
> > the
> > > minimum
> > > > requirements[1]
> > > > > before to
> > > > > > install the
> 3D extension[2],
> > and do it
> > > in a
> > > > separate gvSIG
> > > > > 1.10 final
> > > > > >
> installation. All your
> > comments,
> > > suggestions and
> > > > bug reports
> > > > > are
> > > > > > wellcome.
> You can write to
> > gvSIG
> > > distribution
> > > > lists or to
> > > > > the gvSIG 3D
> > > > > > blog[3],
> where you can find
> > > videotutorials and use
> > > > examples.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you
> very much in
> > advance!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> [1]https://gvsig.org/web/projects/gvsig-desktop/official/gvsig-1.10/extensiones-gvsig-1.10/extension-3d/system-requirements/view?set_language=en
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> [2]https://gvsig.org/web/projects/gvsig-desktop/official/gvsig-1.10/extensiones-gvsig-1.10/extension-3d/downloads
> > > > > >
> [3]http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -- Jordi
> Torres Fabra --
> > > > > >
> > > > > > gvSIG 3D
> blog
> > > > > >
> http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com
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