[Gvsig_english] gvSIG and gvSIG-CE, when will someone clarify the situation?

[Ruth Schönbuchner]

Dear Cèsar, list, 



regarding this issue in having effort for testing, translations, spreading... i 

want to add that José and me put a lot of effort in spreading gvSIG in Germany!

For many years, we put our time and effort in doing presentations, workshops on the

different conferences like AGIT, FossGIS or Intergeo.

We found a bugs that are well documented and we also work hard in trying to fix them to improve

the software and we send the patches to you to improve gvSIG!

It would be impossible to work in real terms without local committers (gvSIG has zero committers outside Spain).

Changing gvSIG CE to another name would complicate this exchange.



Personally I would prefer to discuss on how to improve the software and on how to improve

contribution between gvSIG Association and non-members.

Maybe we can find a way?



Best regards, Ruth

Ruth Schönbuchner
CSGIS
Email:ruth.schoenbuchner at csgis.de
Web: http://www.csgis.de

Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 08:27:20 +0200
From: cordinyana at gvsig.com
To: gvsig_internacional at listserv.gva.es
Subject: Re: [Gvsig_english] gvSIG and gvSIG-CE, when will someone clarify the situation?


  
    
  
  
    El 01/08/12 17:09, José Antonio
      Canalejo Alonso escribió:

    
    
      Hello Jorge,

        gvSIG was born without trademarks [1]. The owners of the
        copyright are now different than the ones at the beginning of
        the project. Things have changed a lot since the gvSIG incubator
        application request was sent to OSGeo [1]. This link should be
        actualized and the actual situation of gvSIG should be new
        exposed: names of all official committers, relationships with
        commercial companies or products, patents, trademarks,
        copyright, people actively contribute (code, documentation,
        other?), actual sponsors, etc

        These changes about trademarks were never notified in this list.
        My apologies if the name of the project is creating confusion.
        gvSIG CE was created as many other projects with the name of
        gvSIG. After the creation of gvSIG CE, we were informed about
        the existing trademarks.

      
    
    

    Hello José Antonio.

    

    As a former member of the gvSIG Association, its hard for me to
    believe you didn't know about the trademark beforehand. And those
    many other projects you talk about are mainly extensions and
    customizations of the gvSIG project, not complete forks.

    

    In any case, I think its never late to rename the project, or is it
    written in stone?

    

    
      Instead of
        starting any expensive and painful legal action, we should keep
        on working, producing good code like we are making now. Developers
            from gvSIG EIEL and gvSIG CE made important
        contributions to gvSIG 1.10, 1.11 and 1.12.

        Let's keep working together in different repositories. We are
        more effective and faster now than following the official
        procedures. More contributions will come from gvSIG CE Team to
        gvSIG 1x.

        Otherwise, you have announced, the gvSIG Association will invest
        its resources in gvSIG 2x. Let us then develop in peace gvSIG
        1x. and integrate SEXTANTE there as it should be done. No matter
        of we are official or not. Do not try to make official a
        community, this will never work.

        Best regards!

        Jose

      
    
    

    I don't know what you are talking about. First of all you mention
    gvSIG EIEL developers like having something to do with the gvSIG CE
    project or not related to the gvSIG project. But the gvSIG EIEL
    project is a gvSIG official one, the organizations that develop and
    promote it are members or collaborate with the gvSIG Association,
    and some of the developers are maintainers of the gvSIG official
    code or even belong to the gvSIG TSC board. Of course they
    contribute to gvSIG, they are PART of it.

    

    You also mention a gvSIG Association announcement about investing
    its resources in gvSIG 2. But, who do you think is investing in
    gvSIG 1.12? I really appreciate the patches you are submitting, but
    it has nothing to do with all the effort involved developing gvSIG
    1.12, as well as the work made by non developers: testing,
    translations, user manual, spreading, etc. All of this of course
    with the help and support of the gvSIG community.

    

    And finally, could you please explain what are those procedures you
    talk about and why they are so slow and ineffective? You talk about
    having to sign a CLA, sending patches in tickets and being reviewed
    by the maintainers? Those and any other procedures are there for a
    reason. Many of the big and successful open source projects have
    procedures, usually much more stricter than the gvSIG ones. Take a
    look, for example, at projects like the linux kernel, eclipse,
    android, etc. to see what I'm talking about.

    

    In any case, you are free to have the code wherever you want. But
    please try not to confuse the gvSIG users as much as possible, and
    let us develope gvSIG 1x, 2x, ... whatever in peace.

    

    Regards.

    -- 
Cèsar Ordiñana Navarro
gvSIG software architect
DiSiD Technologies (http://www.disid.com)

  


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