[Gvsig_english] gvSIG and Java on Mac OS X
Benjamin Ducke
benjamin.ducke at oxfordarch.co.uk
Sun Oct 19 13:43:50 CEST 2008
Hi Agustin,
good to hear all that work is useful for other people, too ;)
I have no problem with you sharing this with whoever else.
I never though about the remote-login advantage of an X11-based
version, but that certainly is a strong point in favour of it
(particularly for SEXTANTE geoprocessing).
Instead of using "raw" X11, however, you should *definitely*
install the (free version of) NoMachine NX server on your
office machine and an NX client on your laptop. Using that
for remote work will dramatically increase responsiveness
of the UI!
SoyLatte seems to come with a somewhat weird Java
license at the moment. I have not really looked into it too
much, but it's not GPL'd software.
So for now, we should make people aware of these conditions.
Sometime next week (or perhaps a bit later, depending on how
much time I have available for this), I will create an installer
software for this version and that will come with the appropriate
license bundled.
We will then host the thing on our oadigital.net pages.
Ben
----- Original Message -----
From: "Agustin Diez Castillo" <Agustin.Diez at uv.es>
To: "gvsig internacional" <gvsig_internacional at runas.cap.gva.es>
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 9:38:34 AM (GMT) Europe/London
Subject: Re: [Gvsig_english] gvSIG and Java on Mac OS X
Hoooorray
Ben's bundle + script works here. What I did:
I downloaded soylatte [1], ben's bundle and ben's script. Unzip soylatte, put the jai
stuff from /System/Library/Java/Extensions/ and the jai that comes with gvSIG
(~/Library/Java/Extensions/jai_imageio.jar) into soylatte .../jre/lib/ext, edit ben's
script for my environment and uncomment soylatte and launch the script.
Why I think this is marvelous?
Now I can work remotely in my office machine (ram loaded) with my meager MacBook and use
all the data I have in it.
how?
I edit etc/ssh_config & /etc/sshd_config in the remote machine.
ssh_config
#ForwardX11 no
by
ForwardX11 yes
sshd_config
#X11Forwarding no
by
X11Forwarding yes
and from a X11 terminal ssh -Y myremotemachine -l myuser
Thanks a lot Ben, you did my week.
Can I share your bundle with others?
[1] http://landonf.bikemonkey.org/static/soylatte/
INFO AWT-EventQueue-1 com.iver.cit.gvsig.IntializeApplicationExtension - gvSIG locale
language: es
INFO AWT-EventQueue-1 com.iver.cit.gvsig.IntializeApplicationExtension - OS name: Darwin
INFO AWT-EventQueue-1 com.iver.cit.gvsig.IntializeApplicationExtension - arch:i386
INFO AWT-EventQueue-1 com.iver.cit.gvsig.IntializeApplicationExtension - version:9.5.0
INFO AWT-EventQueue-1 com.iver.cit.gvsig.IntializeApplicationExtension - JAVA vendor: Sun
Microsystems Inc.
INFO AWT-EventQueue-1 com.iver.cit.gvsig.IntializeApplicationExtension -
version:1.6.0_03-p3
INFO AWT-EventQueue-1 com.iver.cit.gvsig.IntializeApplicationExtension - home:
/Users/gore/Downloads/soylatte16-i386-1.0.3/jre
>
> El 17/10/2008, a las 16:21, Benjamin Ducke escribió:
>
> > OK, this all sounds promising and straight-forward.
> >
> > Indeed: the SoyLatte JRE runs on X11, so for anyone to use this
> > version,
> > they have to:
> >
> > 1. Make sure X11 is installed
>
> I seem to remember it was installed by default in OS X 10.4 (Tiger),
> and maybe even without option in 10.5 (Leopard)
>
> >
> > 2. Live with the fact that it looks like an X11 app (So what?)
>
> You know, (we) mac people can sometimes be a bit obtuse ;). And the
> difference is harder to notice if you come from other platforms.
> But I am sure there will be people willing to stand the ugliness /
> lack of integration.
>
> >
> >
> > I will "unbundle" things as you suggested. I will also give it some
> > more intensive testing. If that's useful for you as well: all the
> > better!
> >
>
> I hope it will be useful for other mac users. So if I can help in any
> way, please let me know.
>
>
>
> > Is there a way for my shell script to know it's own location in the
> > file
> > system, so it can figure out all needed paths?
> >
>
> thisDir="${0%/*}"
> (I use that in (inner bundle).*/Contents/MacOS/preJava)
> Also, running a bundle is supposed to prepare a couple of variables
> (mapped to environment variables?) pointing to the interesting dirs.
> Try to dump them in the shell to look for them.
>
>
> > For this week, I will give it a rest and resume work on it on Monday.
> >
> > Thanks a lot again for all the help and have a nice weekend!
> >
>
> Nice weekend!
> (please remember to test native libraries' functionality, like loading
> a TIFF. And some screenshots would be very interesting - is it Aqua-
> like or Metal-like?)
>
>
> > Ben
> >
> >
> >
> >> In the *.app/Contents/Info.plist you'll find an entry pointing to
> >> the actual file to be executed (which is supposed to be inside
> >> *.app/Contents/MacOS). And that file can be a shell script.
> >> Now, you don't need the complex bundle structure we have been using
> >> for gvSIG <2. You only need the inner *.app bundle; the "outer" one
> >> is only to check for and install JAI-ImageIO if needed. Which is
> >> not your case because you already put it into SoyLatte.
> >> (gvSIG 2 will also do without the outer bundle, since we have
> >> learnt that JAI-ImageIO causes Firefox and Opera to die when
> >> loading Java applets, and so we don't install it system-wide but
> >> use it as an extra .jar in the classpath)
> >> (remember to take out the jai-imageio.jar from your ~/Library/Java/
> >> Extensions !)
> >> A hopefully minor problem will be that you won't be able to "osx-
> >> ize" the user experience as much as with the Apple-provided
> >> JavaStub. Expect problems with the app icon and name while running,
> >> for example. (or maybe SoyLatte has already been prepared for
> >> that?...). I think you could overcome that by creating your own
> >> substitute of the JavaStub, with a little Cocoa program which would
> >> present itself as gvSIG to the OS and start an embedded JVM which
> >> would run the actual program....
> >> Also, can you confirm that the native functionalities (like loading
> >> a TIFF) do work?
> >> I think we could polish a bit the whole thing and prepare it so
> >> different versions of gvSIG can be dropped-in, if you agree.
> >> Cheers!
> >>> Thanks much for your help, Mijail!
> >>>
> >>> Ben
> >>>
> >>> P.S.: Yes, I copied the JAI I/O which the gvSIG installer put into
> >>> ~/Library/Java/Extensions ...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Mijail wrote:
> >>>> Maybe good news: the log you sent now says this:
> >>>> " La máquina virtual con la que se ejecuta gvSIG no tiene JAI
> >>>> instalado"
> >>>> Which is spanish for "JAI is not installed in the VM executing
> >>>> gvSIG". (I guess that should be localized or translated! :P)
> >>>> Also, in this log the JCRS error looks directly related to JAI:
> >>>> ERROR [AWT-EventQueue-1] (?:?) - Cannot locate extension
> >>>> classorg.gvsig.crs.JCrsExtension
> >>>> java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: javax/media/jai/EnumeratedParameter
> >>>> Problem is, ... where to get JAI for SoyLatte?
> >>>> If it is not available as opensourced, my first idea is to try
> >>>> the JAI installed in OS X's Java, which you will find in /System/
> >>>> Library/Java/Extensions/ . (I hope Apple didn't do anything
> >>>> unholy to them)
> >>>> Or maybe the .jar's (that is, the non-native parts) of the JAI
> >>>> distribution for Linux or Windows.
> >>>> (and while we're at it, which JAI-ImageIO did you use? the one
> >>>> included with gvSIG, I hope...).
> >>>> El 17/10/2008, a las 14:24, Benjamin Ducke escribió:
> >>>>> La máquina virtual con la que se ejecuta gvSIG no tiene JAI
> >>>>> instalado
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