[Gvsig_english] gvSIG and gvSIG-CE, when will someone clarify the situation?

[Cèsar Ordiñana]

El 01/08/12 17:09, José Antonio Canalejo Alonso escribió:
> Hello Jorge,
> gvSIG was born without trademarks [1]. The owners of the copyright are 
> now different than the ones at the beginning of the project. Things 
> have changed a lot since the gvSIG incubator application request was 
> sent to OSGeo [1]. This link should be actualized and the actual 
> situation of gvSIG should be new exposed: names of all official 
> committers, relationships with commercial companies or products, 
> patents, trademarks, copyright, people actively contribute (code, 
> documentation, other?), actual sponsors, etc
> These changes about trademarks were never notified in this list. My 
> apologies if the name of the project is creating confusion. gvSIG CE 
> was created as many other projects with the name of gvSIG. After the 
> creation of gvSIG CE, we were informed about the existing trademarks.

Hello José Antonio.

As a former member of the gvSIG Association, its hard for me to believe 
you didn't know about the trademark beforehand. And those many other 
projects you talk about are mainly extensions and customizations of the 
gvSIG project, not complete forks.

In any case, I think its never late to rename the project, or is it 
written in stone?

> Instead of starting any expensive and painful legal action, we should 
> keep on working, producing good code like we are making now. 
> Developers from gvSIG EIEL and gvSIG CE made important contributions 
> to gvSIG 1.10, 1.11 and 1.12.
> Let's keep working together in different repositories. We are more 
> effective and faster now than following the official procedures. More 
> contributions will come from gvSIG CE Team to gvSIG 1x.
> Otherwise, you have announced, the gvSIG Association will invest its 
> resources in gvSIG 2x. Let us then develop in peace gvSIG 1x. and 
> integrate SEXTANTE there as it should be done. No matter of we are 
> official or not. Do not try to make official a community, this will 
> never work.
> Best regards!
> Jose

I don't know what you are talking about. First of all you mention gvSIG 
EIEL developers like having something to do with the gvSIG CE project or 
not related to the gvSIG project. But the gvSIG EIEL project is a gvSIG 
official one, the organizations that develop and promote it are members 
or collaborate with the gvSIG Association, and some of the developers 
are maintainers of the gvSIG official code or even belong to the gvSIG 
TSC board. Of course they contribute to gvSIG, they are PART of it.

You also mention a gvSIG Association announcement about investing its 
resources in gvSIG 2. But, who do you think is investing in gvSIG 1.12? 
I really appreciate the patches you are submitting, but it has nothing 
to do with all the effort involved developing gvSIG 1.12, as well as the 
work made by non developers: testing, translations, user manual, 
spreading, etc. All of this of course with the help and support of the 
gvSIG community.

And finally, could you please explain what are those procedures you talk 
about and why they are so slow and ineffective? You talk about having to 
sign a CLA, sending patches in tickets and being reviewed by the 
maintainers? Those and any other procedures are there for a reason. Many 
of the big and successful open source projects have procedures, usually 
much more stricter than the gvSIG ones. Take a look, for example, at 
projects like the linux kernel, eclipse, android, etc. to see what I'm 
talking about.

In any case, you are free to have the code wherever you want. But please 
try not to confuse the gvSIG users as much as possible, and let us 
develope gvSIG 1x, 2x, ... whatever in peace.

Regards.

-- 
Cèsar Ordiñana Navarro
gvSIG software architect
DiSiD Technologies (http://www.disid.com)

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